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Old 04-11-2010, 21:12   #1
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I dont think that today you can find alive dogs with no rep z pohranicni straze blood in his line.
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Old 04-11-2010, 22:42   #2
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I dont think that today you can find alive dogs with no rep z pohranicni straze blood in his line.

I also believe it. I have put the post with the hope that there could be someone
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Old 04-11-2010, 22:52   #3
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WOW in fact it's really difficult to find a dog still alive without Rep blood...
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Old 04-11-2010, 23:30   #4
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Who are some of the dogs with the least amount of Rep's influence?
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No, it's not difficult, today there are none, we can consider Rep z Pohranicni straze a one of the basis of the breed.

If you know a pure dog without him, please let me know.

Lets see by Kazan (F1) which was made for refresh the blood of the breed.

Kazan was born after, for the opening of the line and, according to database, he was mated with Rep daughter and Rep granddaughter, then, of the 3 litters he had 2 already will have Rep z PS soon at the start, Ada z PS was a linebreeding in Lord z PS without Rep z PS blood, but her B litter, which was another linebreeding in Lord z PS free of Rep z PS were all lost in time, by her A litter you will note that almost all the offsprings mated with dogs which had Rep z PS in his blood, A.Lobos was the last of this line free of Rep z PS, because all the females he mated had Rep z PS in their blood.
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Who are some of the dogs with the least amount of Rep's influence?
I can not answer your question right now, because the statistic tool on this site does not function anymore (temporariliy?).

Being a a hobby genetics enthusiast, with interest I regularly calculated COI's of numerous Csv's with it, living today. On all generations ofcourse, otherwise one misses the impact of Rep in its entirety. Not entirely surprising is that the dogs with the lowest inbreeding coefficients also have the smallest percentage of Rep.

Rep has been very important in the development of our race, but has also seriously narrowed the gene pool. Regrettable that a few breeders still show little professionalism in guarding the fragile gene pool.

Iran Zemplínska oblast 'is one of the dogs of our time with relatively little Rep in his blood, although Rep even occurs in its pedigree several times. Most of his descendants, have the lowest inbreeding coefficients we know nowadays.

An important instrument is the statistical tool that forum member Elf has developed.

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Buidelwolf, I think you stated the truth quite nicely...breeders must be very careful, or we will have a genetic disaster one day.

Yes, Iran is a very interesting dog. I am very excited to have him on this side of the Atlantic...

And I hope the COI tool works again too - fully - very soon...
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Rep has been very important in the development of our race, but has also seriously narrowed the gene pool. Regrettable that a few breeders still show little professionalism in guarding the fragile gene pool.
I now before this discussion, that Rep,played a really important role in the CsV evolution in Slovakia in 1982 – 1983 and after that... but I never realized before today that Rep is now in each CsV Bloodline1...
It's quite “sad” for the blood diversity of our breed.
In fact, it's really important to works now with dog with less Rep blood in their blood line.

It's really an interesting post
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I raised this topic because it seems to me to be very important, but simultaneously it seems to me to be slightly worrying. If we pull the thread wherefrom our current dogs come, they all end in Rep.

I agree with the practices of imbreding and line breding. But in the moment in which all the breeders do the same practice with the same copy, the consanguiniedad that is obtained is brutal, besides the consanguiniedad that already was brought of before.
I think that there would be necessary to search (if other lines exist) to be able to continue pulling the thread.

Some of them also think that there would be necessary to incorporate new blood of wolf but treated by recognized professionals and correctly realized.
Iran looks like to me an extraordinary dog and a resource mas, but still in it continues taking Rep's blood.


But ... indeed there does not exist any dog that does not come from this line?
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So it would be usefull to make combinations when breeding with the lowest procent of Rep? Am I thinking right?
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