What is an interesting pedigree?

Morian · 16-06-2010, 12:43

hanka, may i ask a question too?
this breeding plan, groups etc - it's not more than just a recommendation for breeders (if i understood, nobody can ban "out of plan" mate). then isn't it more useful for the breed to create "antiplan" including list of lines, stud dogs etc which bear defects and health problems?

my english is not perfect too, but i hope you'll understand what i want to say.

Hanka · 16-06-2010, 12:53

Daiva, Morian. This list is not breeding plane

). It is only list of males in groups. I wrote you, every breeder can speak about breeding plane.
Breeding plane is created every year fresh, for all males and females. Every breeder who ask leader of breeding can ask about it. Breeding plane is "idea" about target. And every year is created new plan of next parents ( pairs). And every breeder can speak about it, when he does not agree with something (for example male for female). In 100% of cases is some result, what is good for breeder and leader of breeding too. Every year are a few discussion with breeders about some second male. It is normal.
Morian- do you mean list of males, which can have some genetic problems? hi hi, make some and I think owners of males on list will kill you

. Nobody will want to see own dog on this list. but- good idea.

Morian · 16-06-2010, 13:12

hanka, will the kill me or not, but it must exist

you know that there are many different rules in many different countries. some countries even have no club = no special requirements for stud dogs. some breeders use it consciously, some breeders just don't know about it (for example - at us, in russia). it's another question why did they decide to breed...
so my next question is: are the people afraid to be killed or such list is just uncomfortable for the same breeders? it's very interesting because we all (except blind ones) can see what happens in some cases. i still mean stable defects and health problems

it doesn't matter - do i want to see my dog in this list etc. because unbiased assessment must exist too.

Morian · 16-06-2010, 13:20

and one more question. what is the concept of breeding? where is selection? standard?.. i just can't understand. or clubs are afraid of angry owners?

16-06-2010, 13:12	#3
Morian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USSR Posts: 2,047	hanka, will the kill me or not, but it must exist you know that there are many different rules in many different countries. some countries even have no club = no special requirements for stud dogs. some breeders use it consciously, some breeders just don't know about it (for example - at us, in russia). it's another question why did they decide to breed... so my next question is: are the people afraid to be killed or such list is just uncomfortable for the same breeders? it's very interesting because we all (except blind ones) can see what happens in some cases. i still mean stable defects and health problems it doesn't matter - do i want to see my dog in this list etc. because unbiased assessment must exist too. Last edited by Morian; 16-06-2010 at 13:15.

16-06-2010, 12:43	#1
Morian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USSR Posts: 2,047	hanka, may i ask a question too? this breeding plan, groups etc - it's not more than just a recommendation for breeders (if i understood, nobody can ban "out of plan" mate). then isn't it more useful for the breed to create "antiplan" including list of lines, stud dogs etc which bear defects and health problems? my english is not perfect too, but i hope you'll understand what i want to say.

16-06-2010, 12:53	#2
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Daiva, Morian. This list is not breeding plane ). It is only list of males in groups. I wrote you, every breeder can speak about breeding plane. Breeding plane is created every year fresh, for all males and females. Every breeder who ask leader of breeding can ask about it. Breeding plane is "idea" about target. And every year is created new plan of next parents ( pairs). And every breeder can speak about it, when he does not agree with something (for example male for female). In 100% of cases is some result, what is good for breeder and leader of breeding too. Every year are a few discussion with breeders about some second male. It is normal. Morian- do you mean list of males, which can have some genetic problems? hi hi, make some and I think owners of males on list will kill you . Nobody will want to see own dog on this list. but- good idea.

16-06-2010, 13:20	#4
Morian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USSR Posts: 2,047	and one more question. what is the concept of breeding? where is selection? standard?.. i just can't understand. or clubs are afraid of angry owners?