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Antigo 07-28-2008, 10:45   #1
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Anyway one has to be extremly careful whom to sell a puppy and who´s bitch to mate.
There are more people breeding crosses in Britain and the rest of Europe, we should be very carefull not to involve the breed with this.
Unluckily there is always someone more greedy than responsible.

Mr. Winder visited this site twice since our questions but no reaction, I guess that is an answer too.

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Antigo 07-29-2008, 3:26   #2
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Mr. Winder visited this site twice since our questions but no reaction, I guess that is an answer too.
Isn't this the best reply?
What excuse can someone who was suposed to protect and try the legallity of a banned breed in his country, proofing that CzW are no more than one dog breed, so called serious and responsible breeder that make some people believe in his suposed serious work for the breed, that had the courage to comes here and attack another breeder because personal problems accusing that it was for the breed sake, that now appear solding wolfmixes crossed with CzW over world and solding so called CzW to Northen Inuit breeder wich mix then in the "forbiden by DEFRA law" country... really have no excuse.
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Antigo 07-30-2008, 3:36   #3
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Unfortunately breeding wolfdog hybrids is a weird and dangerous hype on this moment in several European countries….
And I become sick of all the breeders who accuse each other to cooperate with this crazy buyers hype!

Besides the import of real F1, 2 and 3 from Canada, US and UK or east Europe (with fake papers and names of other breeds), not real prepared people are also interested in all kind of ”Wolf-look a likes”

So several breeders in different countries did see a new “Market”
And these mixes breeders use not only CsW but also SWH (see for example the advertisement of cry-wolf from UK: cry-wolf hybrid Saarloos puppies are uniquely bred by crossing hybrid and Northern Inuits with pedigree Saarloos. )
For me it is a bit crazy , that even in UK where a normal breed like CsW is even not recognised, breeders can public sell all kind of hybrids and mixes!

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Anyway one has to be extremly careful whom to sell a puppy and who´s bitch to mate.
There are more people breeding crosses in Britain and the rest of Europe, we should be very carefull not to involve the breed with this.
Unluckily there is always someone more greedy than responsible.
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I agree for 100%! Because when you read very well the several sites and forums of hybrid breeders, you will discover that a lot more common CSW and SWH breeders in Europe are involved or cooperate with them…

And that is their own choice , even like it is your own choice to buy a puppy or to cover your female or male with a common CsW “dog” or any of their not official recognised breed….

But I am I am glad that I am only a very small “incidental hobby breeder“ in this breed, who only cares about the general progress of this breed, and I am not involved with any of all these kind of “mix-mess”.
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Unfortunately breeding wolfdog hybrids is a weird and dangerous hype on this moment in several European countries….
My basic question is - whats the sense breeding the hybrids today ?
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Antigo 07-30-2008, 9:53   #5
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My basic question is - whats the sense breeding the hybrids today ?
nothing else but earning money, Pavel

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nothing else but earning money, Pavel

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Thank you Angelika, I have had same feeling.
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nothing else but earning money, Pavel

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And to suit their questionable psychological needs.
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My basic question is - whats the sense breeding the hybrids today ?
Well, let's say in Lithuania hunters sometimes breed laikas and wolfs for "better hunting dogs" and they do not care that hunting with a dog who has no pedigree is illegal...
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Antigo 07-30-2008, 12:27   #9
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i think this be and psychikal problems. Mr.Winder wish play a little God and make new breed.
if Your rememeber Mutara hystory- this same metod- "healt problems and bla bla bla".
but in reality this is problems with normal thinkink and not moore. and yes, money, money, money.
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