Hungarian kennel club defunct?

[Norky]

I'll tell you again Rona:

However, I wanted to prove the origin of my dogs.
But no answer .... as always.

In this respect: it was my dogs have formal screening and FCI pedigree...so...
You have no right mix had to call them.

and....:
As you prove that mixes the Hungarian dogs??

How to verify the origin of my dogs?

But you can not get an answer to this again ....

Until then: Do not you dare slander!

[Rona]

Originally Posted by Norky

Until then: Do not you dare slander!

Please, control yourself! I'm not using offensive language and see no reason why you should!
Neither did I write anywhere that the dogs are mixes, nor did I accuse anybody of lying or cheating. I'm not Admin so I can't tell you what he/she thinks or plans to do.

I only reacted to what people were writing here. Common sense says that if they are any doubts connected with ANY DOG'S parenthood (not only Hungarian ones!), the easiest and simplest way is to conduct DNA tests and find the truth. This has been successfully done many times in various countries and it's not a problem provided breeders and owners cooperate.
But if the parents' owners plainly refuse to cooperate it makes people wonder why. The first and most logical answer is that either they have something to hide or fear what the test results would be. That's a bit to little to call it slander!

[Norky]

I'm doing DNA tests ...but compared with whom?

So what's the solution?
Delete the faulty thinking dogs?
This is the simplest ...

I was doing everything clearly .... the screening, EVERYTHING ...

And now what can I do?
Or no answer to this again?

[yukidomari]

Originally Posted by Norky

I'm doing DNA tests ...but compared with whom?

So what's the solution?
Delete the faulty thinking dogs?
This is the simplest ...

I was doing everything clearly .... the screening, EVERYTHING ...

And now what can I do?
Or no answer to this again?

if your breeder won't cooperate with providing DNA, then perhaps the only thing to do is start over with new breeding stock?

[Rona]

Originally Posted by yukidomari

if your breeder won't cooperate with providing DNA, then perhaps the only thing to do is start over with new breeding stock?

Or turn to the local breed club or National Kennel Club for assistance and help? I'm sure the institutions have proper administrative tools to make certain members (breeders/owners) have their dogs tested by independant vets and labs!!!
Having been collecting memebership and show fees, clubs should now feel obliged to offer their honest members support in sorting out such problem. Especially, if they claim they follow FCI mission and goals!

I think that if half of the time and energy spent on blaming wd and Admin were spent on attempts to clear up the mess by institutins who are formally supposed to deal with such cases, everything would have been ironed out long time ago.

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by Rona

Or turn to the local breed club or National Kennel Club for assistance and help? I'm sure the institutions have proper administrative tools to make certain members (breeders/owners) have their dogs tested by independant vets and labs!!!
Having been collecting memebership and show fees, clubs should now feel obliged to offer their honest members support in sorting out such problem. Especially, if they claim they follow FCI mission and goals!

I wish they'ed have...
But look at France for instance, neither the club (if there is one) nor the French Kennel Club does anything against the Capiez, Domer etc. crosses.

Michael

[Rona]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

I wish they'ed have...
But look at France for instance, neither the club (if there is one) nor the French Kennel Club does anything against the Capiez, Domer etc. crosses.

Michael, are you sure somebody has asked them to do something? Such organizations rarely act at their own inititive! They need formal requests which could give them a reason to act.

Some time ago I suggested here the international vlcak community should prepare and sign petition to the French Kennel Club and FCI to support the minority (as it seemed) of French owners and breeders who wanted to have the origin of their dogs explained. People from other countries declared help and support, but except ONE PM there was no response on the French side! Even Lorry, who should be most interested (!) told me off . Taking under consideration the number of posts which the French produced on the Big Bad Admin (showing they are able to write ) I have doubts if anybody has been seriously interested in solving the problem.

The same applies to the Hungarian KC. Has anybody formally requested their kynological, FCI affiliated authorities for help? If the answer is positive and the club did nothing... that's too bad!