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Old 04-05-12, 06:59   #1
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Should the present Hungarian KC reacted to vlcak community pledges to sort out the doubts connected with the appearance of "pink CSVs" descendng from CW lines, I'd be motivated to offer my support now.

CSV owners kept asking the Hungarian KC to fulfil the FCI statutory obligations and conduct enquiry, but unfortunately, as far as I know, recieved no answer and no action was taken.
Seems FCI regulations did not matter much to the present Hungarian KC anyway, so why should we be bothered?
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Old 04-05-12, 10:00   #2
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Should the present Hungarian KC reacted to vlcak community pledges to sort out the doubts connected with the appearance of "pink CSVs" descendng from CW lines, I'd be motivated to offer my support now.

CSV owners kept asking the Hungarian KC to fulfil the FCI statutory obligations and conduct enquiry, but unfortunately, as far as I know, recieved no answer and no action was taken.
Seems FCI regulations did not matter much to the present Hungarian KC anyway, so why should we be bothered?
This is a ""very fair"" comment ....

I am a Hungarian ....many letters asking for this site admin to tell me what I can do to clarify the origin of my dogs ...but I did not receive a response.

Now is not the case ....but catch up to save the Hungarian Kennel club.

But we do not need your "help" ...
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This is a ""very fair"" comment ....
I am a Hungarian ....many letters asking for this site admin to tell me what I can do to clarify the origin of my dogs ...but I did not receive a response.
Should your Kennel Club act reasonably, appropriatly and FAIRLY, also towards owners and breeders from other countries, followed the rules and mission the FCI, you'd probably have no reason to ask for any clarifications. It was the Hungarian Kennel Club in the first place, not WD Admin, that should have done something about the doubtful CSV cases from CW kennel.

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But we do not need your "help" ...
Good to hear, because I've learned my lesson from having supported Winder's "Breed Club" that turned out to be a cover for mix-breeding in the UK. Now I will never formally support any case of which I'm not 100% sure is honest.
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Should your Kennel Club act reasonably, appropriatly and FAIRLY, also towards owners and breeders from other countries, followed the rules and mission the FCI, you'd probably have no reason to ask for any clarifications. It was the Hungarian Kennel Club in the first place, not WD Admin, that should have done something about the doubtful CSV cases from CW kennel.

Good to hear, because I've learned my lesson from having supported Winder's "Breed Club" that turned out to be a cover for mix-breeding in the UK. Now I will never formally support any case of which I'm not 100% sure is honest.

please specify:

Just you think doubt about the origin of the Hungarian dogs.

However, I wanted to prove the origin of my dogs.
But no answer .... as always.

In this respect: it was my dogs have formal screening and FCI pedigree...so...
You have no right mix had to call them.

Repeating: we are not asking you for help.

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Old 05-05-12, 13:37   #5
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Just you think doubt about the origin of the Hungarian dogs.
No, not JUST me. There are many more people, including the owner of the "pink vlcaks", in-bred descendants of CW dogs. http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20855
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I'll tell you again Rona:

However, I wanted to prove the origin of my dogs.
But no answer .... as always.

In this respect: it was my dogs have formal screening and FCI pedigree...so...
You have no right mix had to call them.


and....:
As you prove that mixes the Hungarian dogs??

How to verify the origin of my dogs?

But you can not get an answer to this again ....

Until then: Do not you dare slander!
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Until then: Do not you dare slander!
Please, control yourself! I'm not using offensive language and see no reason why you should!
Neither did I write anywhere that the dogs are mixes, nor did I accuse anybody of lying or cheating. I'm not Admin so I can't tell you what he/she thinks or plans to do.

I only reacted to what people were writing here. Common sense says that if they are any doubts connected with ANY DOG'S parenthood (not only Hungarian ones!), the easiest and simplest way is to conduct DNA tests and find the truth. This has been successfully done many times in various countries and it's not a problem provided breeders and owners cooperate.
But if the parents' owners plainly refuse to cooperate it makes people wonder why. The first and most logical answer is that either they have something to hide or fear what the test results would be. That's a bit to little to call it slander!
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