Demoniak de la Louve Blanche

[LadyJessy]

Dear Ina,
I don't must absolutely excuses with you for my presence in expo ... but I want to explain!
I wanted to see old friends and make new ones! I wanted to come without dogs, but many people close to me wanted to see Gunner, and so I took them both! one day expo certainly does not kill them!
If Gunner is shy is my fault, certainly not his! I had to work better when he was little! in the expo have their tails between their legs ... but this does not mean that mistreat them!
See how mistreated my dogs!



http://youtu.be/FII0OtjUK54

if this means mistreat ... Many dogs would like them to be abused!

[koomak]

Ina.

Your video is ridiculous and I think you're a poor girl very ugly and very unhappy in life. . . . Poor girl. . your husband has another woman? It makes you more love? I sympathize :-)

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by koomak

Ina.

Your video is ridiculous and I think you're a poor girl very ugly and very unhappy in life. . . . Poor girl. . your husband has another woman? It makes you more love? I sympathize :-)

I dont know if I should remove this shameful and ridiculous post or if I should let it here to serve as example of your lack of character and imaturity.

Originally Posted by koomak

You filmed for 3 hours! ! You love me so much! !! You came just for that! you came to spy on me! ! Your video shows nothing! ! Show 3h completely! ! My dogs do not know the cage! they were calm and without aggressiveness! ! I saw many many aggressive dogs all day! ! This is not normal! ! I prefer mine! ! Why blame you pictures of carolina? I do not understand! you are jealous! ! Jealous jealous jealous. .

Then when will you start to talk that Ina and all wolfdog.org forum users - who does not agree with the fact that you're supporting the destruction of our breed - being nazis?! Perhaps tell that people are jealous of your atypical mongrels is the dog-world substitute for lack of arguments?!

PS: Ina, thank you very much for this video, I will share it.

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

I dont know if I should remove this shameful and ridiculous post or if I should let it here to serve as example of your lack of character and imaturity.

Please leave it, as well as hanninadina´s post. Apart of showing a tremendous lack of character and imaturity, it also shows better than anything else the poorness of lives that are all about looks, looks, looks, show, show, show and a tremendous lack of understanding the breed in itself, the ability to work real dogs and the simple ability to read canine-language.
I am more than sure that everybody reading it and having at least a little bit of those abilities had about this look in his face

I have been on this Expo for the whole day and didn´t have to take care of terrified dogs all the time and I didn´t see any aggressive dog, I saw some owners that should visit a dogschool and some territorial aggression due to this fact but in very, very few cases and in perfectly normal amount. As so often in discussions with this type of person I obviously visited a different occasion.

I will never in my live understand why people that are not even able to WORK a dog insist on owning and more than that, breeding a working dog breed. There are so many showbreeds. And instead of seeing their mistake they rather prefer to change a whole breed as they are not able to live with the normal character of those dogs or in this two cases of any normal DOG.

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

PS: Ina, thank you very much for this video, I will share it.

You are very welcome, thank you for sharing.

Ina

[simo]

they aren't CLC pure breed, this is the fact..but they have a pure pedigrèe this is the error. Also they could be wonderfull, but they aren't a race...maybe a nice experiment.

[koomak]

Me? Immature? You've filmed for 3 h and you are hiding you for this! you realize? ! 6 min to show "CLT classic character," your dogs are aggressive, it's you who should stop them again! ! So you accuse me of mistreating my dogs! !! It is you who have a problem! ! Leave us alone. . Mikael, I'm not so stupid as you think. . . . I know where my puppies go, I select my future owners much better than the breeders! !! Do not worry about that. . .

[julie9471]

You say that they are not pure and that they are the facts. What facts? You have NO proof and you allow to assault people. In fact it is you who have no normal behavior, it would doubtless be necessary to film you during hours to discuss it then. It is you, that will kill the race, strength you will eventually make the future owners run away who will not want of a race of dog where the world is filled with visionaries, and that will finish with not lof each at home, that it is the reality, I repeat, but we would really say a sect...

[Juri Z.P.]

Koomak

You should try to attack me and you would see if my dogs know not react! ! Or come to my house without being invited. . . Ahahahah

your dogs are aggressive

:-)

Mikael, I'm not so stupid as you think. . . . I know where my puppies go, I select my future owners much better than the breeders!

why - you MUST - select the owner very good..better than normal?

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by koomak

Me? Immature? You've filmed for 3 h and you are hiding you for this! you realize? ! 6 min to show "CLT classic character," your dogs are aggressive, it's you who should stop them again! ! So you accuse me of mistreating my dogs! !! It is you who have a problem! ! Leave us alone. . Mikael, I'm not so stupid as you think. . . . I know where my puppies go, I select my future owners much better than the breeders! !! Do not worry about that. . .

moore mixes? I believe they you not call and not breed like a CSV when they not are CSV.
yes you mas select a owners, when law have stright right about wild animals keeping. When they and are wild animals not dogs.
p.s.
agresive dogs in video- please put this moment, when I not saw this, only a poore shy animals and big % normals CSV.
and please LEAVE A CSV BREED alone, mixing this animal who have but not call they a CSV.

[Rona]

Originally Posted by koomak

I select my future owners much better than the breeders! !! Do not worry about that. . .

At least you're beeing honest with us!
Yes, I have no doubt you select the future owners of your pups better than you've selected the breeders of your dogs.

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by koomak

Mikael, I'm not so stupid as you think. . . . I know where my puppies go, I select my future owners much better than the breeders! !! Do not worry about that. . .

Really!?!?! One of the people came to you and asked if your dogs are pure. You told her YES!!!
Sophie - it is a DANGEROUS lie! I also think you are NOT a stupid person - and because of it I think that you know for 100% that dogs which you breed are not PURE Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs but unpredictable crosses. Therefore, I think that you are premeditated lying to puppy buyers by telling them your dogs are ClCs. And this is not behavior of a responsible breeder.

[LadyJessy]

Ah .. I forgot ... I mistreated Gunner, in fact he hates me!



Ahahahahaha goodbye to all!!

[wolfin]

strange, when only owners of this mix not see any problems in this mixes. others people easy see a BIG diferents in anatomy and behavior.

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by wolfin

strange, when only owners of this mix not see any problems in this mixes. others people easy see a BIG diferents in anatomy and behavior.

It seems to be some kind of partial blindness, nevertheless, interesting reactions....

Ina

[LadyJessy]

Oooooh Andrea, che onore!!! Qui mi rispondi?? wow! Che uomo che sei....... Non meriteresti nemmeno una risposta!
Comunque tranquillo, il guinzaglio era lente e poteva anche sdraiarsi dietro di me o starmi ad un metro di distanza se voleva

[LadyJessy]

Sophie asked me to put these 2 pics
The day after the exposure to my house ... "animals of Sophie" quiet... also with strangers!

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

This kind of pictures was the reason why I made and posted this video.....
We are talking about a working dog breed not a sofa-wolf-breed. If you want to keep this kind of animals: Your problem. If you do it as purebred CSW, or mistreat them: A public problem. If you cannot understand this fact: Again your problem.
You can post as many private videos as you like it doesn´t change the problem shown on the video. I can post some alike photos of our European Wolves, so what?

Ina

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Sophie, that was a poor and helpless reply...

But let's come back to the facts and I hope you can help us a little bit.

What was and is your, as well as Capiez' and Turkilla's intention to produce such animals with FCI-pedigrees?
I think it's really daring as an unexperienced CSW-person and "breeder" to start such an "experiment" which might affect big parts of the CSW-population.
I truly hope you have an answer for me and us.

As we see on this video it seems to be a backstep in behaviour, how do you select the dogs for your litters and future plans?

How come that some of them seem to have an "American" appearance rather than an "Eurasian"?

Unexperienced persons as you and Capiez are (wolfdogwise...), did anybody help you in any way?

Apart from wolfish looks, do you expect anything else from your animals?

You see, questions and questions.

Michael

[wolfin]

nice photo but without CSV burning soul

[hanninadina]

This video is ridiclious! I remember very well how shy your founder of your csw breed Gerda z Rofa was. fam Eichhorn! My family and me will never forget that she even being in her own house and room jumped to the window because of the simple "click" of the Canon photo when my wife made pictures! She even did not pass bonitation = P 14! First when Gerda z Rofa was 8 years, she passed with P 3. I did not know that it is allowed to do repeat it.

Sophie, you are right, the husband of Ina had several times girl friends - everybody knows.

I can not see any facts in Sophies dogs that look like american wolfdogs! These are purely europaen wolfdogs. I would call them foundation stock of csw!

I am wondering that you Eichhorn people are talking about working breed csw. You started 2-3 years ago with mantrailing. Til that time you did nothing with them. You know best, that no one can do any agility in real competition with them, or sleddoging. A very few are able to do IPO stuff.

The only "work" they can do is 40 km biking or mantrailing. And there are of course in both deciplins far better dog breeds!

And I will never forget when I went in 2004/5 with my Myla Crying Wolf to the shows in exhibition halls and hunter exhibitions. All people told me, wow, we never saw an open csw like yours. Normally they are always standing beside with their tail under the belly. And of course that is how I learned the csw to know in 1999 during dogshows. And they had been like this for many many times. First in 2006 til now they became in general more open because people bred better more open dogs and did better socialization with the pups and dogs.

So we have here true csw = foundation stock animals because from mother and father side is fresh carpathian wolf blood inside. And in days like this sociaty does not want any aggressiv barking wolfdogs! So it was the right time to bring in fresh blood and brink the csw down from hyperactiv behavior.

And I am wondering Margo and Sarka wrote above that they were very interested in Sophies dogs when seeing them first time. I can not understand why both recognize them as pure csw - but Eichhorns are not able?

Do you remember the song from Metallica with the title

SO WHAT?

Very nice animals, the best csw ever bred!

Christian