good training/behaviour young CSV

Maddie · 28-12-2011, 23:38

all those "naughty" things will only occur if you give a CsV chance to do those things

i believe owning a CsV is a learning curve for both pup and owner, you will teach each other things without realising it!

and has already been said ... each dog is different, and instead of trying to change a dog into something it might not want to be, adapt your own way of thinking to understand what you are asking from the dogs POV

with regards to forests and cities - plenty of good quality socialisation at a young age in all areas, and continued socialisation into adulthood will allow your CsV to be able to take these situations in their stride.

TimoleonVieta · 29-12-2011, 03:28

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Originally Posted by Maddie

all those "naughty" things will only occur if you give a CsV chance to do those things

i believe owning a CsV is a learning curve for both pup and owner, you will teach each other things without realising it!

and has already been said ... each dog is different, and instead of trying to change a dog into something it might not want to be, adapt your own way of thinking to understand what you are asking from the dogs POV

Yes this was very much the case, with my dear deaf collie. It was essential to think very laterally & from the others point of view. I hope this will come as naturally for me with CSV.
Tell me Maddie please, how you might deal with the young vclak if she began to eat your car seat? with my collie it would be a wag of the finger, a glare from me & never again. Although her main trouble in early months was actually being sick on them & then jumping out of car windows!

it will be trained very hard on one thing, she will support Liverpool FC or wont set foot inside my house & never welcome to come for a beer with me!

Maddie · 29-12-2011, 03:58

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Originally Posted by TimoleonVieta

Yes this was very much the case, with my dear deaf collie. It was essential to think very laterally & from the others point of view. I hope this will come as naturally for me with CSV.
Tell me Maddie please, how you might deal with the young vclak if she began to eat your car seat? with my collie it would be a wag of the finger, a glare from me & never again. Although her main trouble in early months was actually being sick on them & then jumping out of car windows!

it will be trained very hard on one thing, she will support Liverpool FC or wont set foot inside my house & never welcome to come for a beer with me!

i would give her a chew toy of some description and remind myself to get heavy duty car seat covers

and thats if she was to be on the car seat, i would hope i would have a crate or dog gaurd set up so as to avoid the situation in the firstplace. as the old saying goes ... fail to prepare, prepare to fail.

liverpool? oh no

Man Utd all the way :P

TimoleonVieta · 29-12-2011, 05:21

as the old saying goes ... fail to prepare, prepare to fail.

liverpool? oh no

Man Utd all the way :P[/quote]

Haha in Merseyside? so I see you must have steel grills on your house windows

seriously thanks for the advice, I have several vehicles so I will have to judge what is best. But I am hoping she will like sitting next to me when I am driving because I like the company & preferably not in a cage because how can I pat her head on those long drives !

Maddie · 29-12-2011, 12:21

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Originally Posted by TimoleonVieta

Haha in Merseyside? so I see you must have steel grills on your house windows

seriously thanks for the advice, I have several vehicles so I will have to judge what is best. But I am hoping she will like sitting next to me when I am driving because I like the company & preferably not in a cage because how can I pat her head on those long drives !

haha, would you be surprised if i told you my house looked out onto a field, a stones throw from a field to the right, and backs onto a horse paddock?

its no worries ... im still waiting for the day where i can have my own csv, but all it means is that there is more time for research

and i'm sure i will never know everything, even when i have one!

Czertice · 29-12-2011, 20:59

Hi TimoleonVieta, welcome to the forum!

You will find my stories in English on my webpage. Raksha is still young, but she is much better behaved than what I prepared for according to the warning stories.

She lives outside the house, so the material damage she makes is minimal.

We socialized her thoroughly, there was no panic, she has a calm temperament.
The socialization process taught us, however, that puppy can be surprised or afraid of the strangest things - a limping person, umbrella, playground rocking horse.

Socialization with other canines - we were surprised when she grew adult that she started to growl at some of the female dogs we met. She still can go to a park and play with most of the dogs there, but I have to be careful when introducing her to strange females.
This same-sex hostility is something very common in CSWs, I'm being told.

TimoleonVieta · 30-12-2011, 01:43

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Hi TimoleonVieta, welcome to the forum!

You will find my stories in English on my webpage. Raksha is still young, but she is much better behaved than what I prepared for according to the warning stories.

I really enjoyed the webpage, it's a mine of information for the novice & photographer to. Konrad Lorenz seems to have had a good effect on you as well as the breeders good advice you sought. I will look more into Mr Lorenz he's ideas are facinating.

May I ask, considering you had Shiva the cat at the time you brought your puppy home, how you think things might have gone had you had your own 8 month old female collie dog or similar at the home when you introduced Raksha to your lives.

It is a hard thing to hypothesize but do you think this may have helped Raksha bond with other females & been a managable relationship in itself.

I am attracted to this combination because I feel that a well loved & secure collie is one of the most humble animals on earth. That it may prove to be a nice foil & friend for the CSV. Not only that I want a CSV so much but couldn't wait 13 years or more for another collie!

TimoleonVieta · 30-12-2011, 01:25

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Originally Posted by Maddie

haha, would you be surprised if i told you my house looked out onto a field, a stones throw from a field to the right, and backs onto a horse paddock?

its no worries ... im still waiting for the day where i can have my own csv, but all it means is that there is more time for research

and i'm sure i will never know everything, even when i have one!

That sounds idyllic Maddie, what a wonderful place to bring up any dog. I hope when the day comes it will be worth the wait. Thanks very much for your time & trouble

29-12-2011, 20:59	#6
Czertice Rakša Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Praha Posts: 292	Hi TimoleonVieta, welcome to the forum! You will find my stories in English on my webpage. Raksha is still young, but she is much better behaved than what I prepared for according to the warning stories. She lives outside the house, so the material damage she makes is minimal. We socialized her thoroughly, there was no panic, she has a calm temperament. The socialization process taught us, however, that puppy can be surprised or afraid of the strangest things - a limping person, umbrella, playground rocking horse. Socialization with other canines - we were surprised when she grew adult that she started to growl at some of the female dogs we met. She still can go to a park and play with most of the dogs there, but I have to be careful when introducing her to strange females. This same-sex hostility is something very common in CSWs, I'm being told. __________________

28-12-2011, 23:38	#1
Maddie Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 27	all those "naughty" things will only occur if you give a CsV chance to do those things i believe owning a CsV is a learning curve for both pup and owner, you will teach each other things without realising it! and has already been said ... each dog is different, and instead of trying to change a dog into something it might not want to be, adapt your own way of thinking to understand what you are asking from the dogs POV with regards to forests and cities - plenty of good quality socialisation at a young age in all areas, and continued socialisation into adulthood will allow your CsV to be able to take these situations in their stride.

29-12-2011, 05:21	#4
TimoleonVieta Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cambidge Posts: 37	as the old saying goes ... fail to prepare, prepare to fail. liverpool? oh no Man Utd all the way :P[/quote] Haha in Merseyside? so I see you must have steel grills on your house windows seriously thanks for the advice, I have several vehicles so I will have to judge what is best. But I am hoping she will like sitting next to me when I am driving because I like the company & preferably not in a cage because how can I pat her head on those long drives !