British Kennel Club Recognition

Murph · 24-09-2011, 18:03

I think the term strike while the iron is hot is approrpriae here!

Shadowlands · 24-09-2011, 19:32

Go for it - you'll be amazed at the support there is for getting this going (some people like to keep silent until the ball is rolling

). After all, you have everything to gain and not so much to lose

Once things are in motion, more and more different bloodlines will be available to you all, which has to be a good thing for what you want to achieve xx

Pixie, Murph - can't agree more
tupacs2legs - I remember reading the same thing...

hedeon · 24-09-2011, 23:21

Ok, I wrote it before, but will quote it again. This is one of requirements for KC recognition:

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Total number of dogs of the breed in the UK
[ideally at least 20, preferably unrelated]
Copies of pedigrees of UK dogs – at least 3 generations

Then how many British pure CSV actually has official pedigrees?

Maddie · 25-09-2011, 00:48

with that in mind though the KC had as good as registered the CsV as a breed before defra stuck their boot in. so there must still be at least 20 dogs with pedigree's in the UK, unless people have exported?

tupacs2legs · 25-09-2011, 01:13

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Originally Posted by hedeon

Ok, I wrote it before, but will quote it again. This is one of requirements for KC recognition:

Then how many British pure CSV actually has official pedigrees?

Pedigree means family tree not registration document I thought,
U can see my dogs on here,only he and his mother are 'not registered'

we are not asking for the kc to recognise fci, we are asking them to recognise the csv... no?

If it was granted once and taken away because of defra...the kc must of had what they required to grant it in the first place.

hedeon · 25-09-2011, 08:18

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Originally Posted by Maddie

with that in mind though the KC had as good as registered the CsV as a breed before defra stuck their boot in. so there must still be at least 20 dogs with pedigree's in the UK, unless people have exported?

Yes, but first thing, it was 9 years ago, many things could happened through that time. Second, if I am not wrong, most of these dogs belonged to Mr Winder and his friend, as they introduced the breed in UK. But someone told me he is not interested in getting this breed recognized again. I don't know.

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Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

Pedigree means family tree not registration document I thought,

Hmmm... I thought they mean by this copies of documents confirming pedigree of the dog...

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Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

we are not asking for the kc to recognise fci, we are asking them to recognise the csv... no?

We are asking KC to recognize breed already recognized by FCI...

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APPLICATIONS FOR RECOGNITION OF BREEDS

The Committee will consider an application for recognition of a breed once
there are specimens of it resident in the UK and the dog(s) are imported
from a country either having a Kennel Club with which there is a reciprocal
agreement or which has full membership of the F.C.I. or where there is a
Breed Club maintaining a Stud Book and acceptable to the Kennel Club.
Application for recognition and subsequent registration should be made in
the first instance to the Breed Standards and Stud Book Sub-Committee.

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Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

If it was granted once and taken away because of defra...the kc must of had what they required to grant it in the first place.

Yes, it may be the point. However, not registered mating was happening during these last eight years. And there was no club associated with the KC to keep a Stud Books or something like that. I think, in KC perspective dogs born in the UK during that period of time are appearing simply out of nowhere. All Kennel Clubs are all about registering litters. But I'm not entirely sure about all of that, so this morning I wrote an email to the KC regarding re-recognition of CSV... Now I'm waiting for a response. Fingers crossed.

If any one has some ideas, or thoughts about it, please share it. It may help...

tupacs2legs · 25-09-2011, 11:38

YEs hedeon I guess we will see....I feel its a slight vendetta against my dog....4 litters in all these years is not 'litters appearing out of nowhere'

Its funny how its a problem because they are british dogs,so many things equal 'farce' abroad about these dogs but if its britain included its guilty until proven innocent....that and mere snobbery!!

hedeon · 25-09-2011, 12:07

??? Layla, this is no vendetta, I promise. Just wrote how I think things can be seen from KC perspective. But what I know? I would like to have discussion here, I now I am probably wrong. Just want someone to tell "no, you are wrong, we can do it 'that' way, or another way". This no way mean I against something, or some one. Really.

24-09-2011, 19:32	#2
Shadowlands Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vidin Posts: 391	Go for it - you'll be amazed at the support there is for getting this going (some people like to keep silent until the ball is rolling ). After all, you have everything to gain and not so much to lose Once things are in motion, more and more different bloodlines will be available to you all, which has to be a good thing for what you want to achieve xx Pixie, Murph - can't agree more tupacs2legs - I remember reading the same thing... Last edited by Shadowlands; 24-09-2011 at 19:37.

24-09-2011, 18:03	#1
Murph Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 54	I think the term strike while the iron is hot is approrpriae here!

25-09-2011, 00:48	#4
Maddie Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 27	with that in mind though the KC had as good as registered the CsV as a breed before defra stuck their boot in. so there must still be at least 20 dogs with pedigree's in the UK, unless people have exported?

25-09-2011, 11:38	#7
tupacs2legs rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: london Posts: 320	YEs hedeon I guess we will see....I feel its a slight vendetta against my dog....4 litters in all these years is not 'litters appearing out of nowhere' Its funny how its a problem because they are british dogs,so many things equal 'farce' abroad about these dogs but if its britain included its guilty until proven innocent....that and mere snobbery!!

25-09-2011, 12:07	#8
hedeon Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 132	??? Layla, this is no vendetta, I promise. Just wrote how I think things can be seen from KC perspective. But what I know? I would like to have discussion here, I now I am probably wrong. Just want someone to tell "no, you are wrong, we can do it 'that' way, or another way". This no way mean I against something, or some one. Really.