Saarloos mixes by "Crying Wolf" kennel (CSV red colored)

[Hanka]

Galiba has normal colour and normal mask. I know him personally and it is normal czech. wolfdog.
His owner is veterinary doctor, she is normal, clever and not blind. If she will have saarlos mix, she will be first, who will ask breeder.....
In time, when Galiba was born, was first saarloses in Evropa very far from breeders of czech. wolfdogs....
So this what you write here about him is nonsens.

[Rona]

Originally Posted by Hanka

Galiba has normal colour and normal mask. I know him personally and it is normal czech. wolfdog.
His owner is veterinary doctor, she is normal, clever and not blind. If she will have saarlos mix, she will be first, who will ask breeder.....
In time, when Galiba was born, was first saarloses in Evropa very far from breeders of czech. wolfdogs....
So this what you write here about him is nonsens.

From what I grasped from the above discussion the problem was connected not with the identity of Galiba, but whether Galiba was the true father of his pups. Should his owner deposit DNA material of Galiba in Laboklin for comparison with the DNA of his offspring (like the owner of Juri ZP did a few months ago) she would solve a lot of problems and show goodwill. Being convinced about the dog's true parenthood and, as you say, being

veterinary doctor, normal, clever and not blind.

she shouldn't have a problem with this. Giving close to 200 owners and many breeders peace of mind is worth a little sample of Galiba's blood! To many people this would be a matter of honour and responsibility.

[Hanka]

Hello Rona,
I will write about my two females, because I don´t want to write about not my dogs. I absolutelly have not reason to distrust, Galiba is grandfather of my females.. Cause I reacted to thread of admin, about "not suspected" Galiba in pedigree of my pups.
But you are right.....From Galiba´s owner can be friendly, if she will give DNA. But I am worry it will not be. I asked her about it for Lorry already....And I was not succesfull.

[Rona]

Originally Posted by Hanka

But you are right.....From Galiba´s owner can be friendly, if she will give DNA. But I am worry it will not be. I asked her about it for Lorry already....And I was not succesfull.

Doesn't such approach worry you at all? It would worry me if I bred on Galiba's descendents... A person who does not want to cooperate in such circumstances apparently has something to hide.

Breeding (unlike puppy making) is not a "private issue" - it's all about responsibility and respect towards dog owners and other breeders.

[Hanka]

But I wrote you, I am sure my females are granddauhters of Galiba.I have not reason to distrust..... I asked owner of Galiba about DNA for my other friends....
I am only one owner of dogs with Galiba in pedigree. I am not his owner, breeder,.... I try to help to my friend, but in real it is not "my work".
I think your question has other adresee. But I see, they don´t react.
Lorry knows, what I did and what I tried to do in this "case".....
But no result.....

[Rona]

Originally Posted by Hanka

But I wrote you, I am sure my females are granddauhters of Galiba.I have not reason to distrust..... I asked owner of Galiba about DNA for my other friends....
But no result.....

I appreciate your attempts and attitude very much.

But my questions was not personal. Doesn't it worry you as member of the Czech Breeding Club that a stud owner in such circumstances may plainly say NO and nothing can be done about it? Even if hunderdes of people were affected and/or the breed put at risk? (Well, I'm sure dogs don't mind )

We're talking about genetic identity, but what if this was a matter of some serious gentic illness spreading in the breed ??? Shouldn't some changes be introduced to the breeding regulations?

[Hanka]

Aaa, Rona, I think, it is question more for Slovak club as guarant of breed....Because we can do nothing in it case by oficial way....
I can´t answer you it....

[Shadowlands]

Originally Posted by Rona

I appreciate your attempts and attitude very much.

But my questions was not personal. Doesn't it worry you as member of the Czech Breeding Club that a stud owner in such circumstances may plainly say NO and nothing can be done about it? Even if hunderdes of people were affected and/or the breed put at risk? (Well, I'm sure dogs don't mind )

We're talking about genetic identity, but what if this was a matter of some serious gentic illness spreading in the breed ??? Shouldn't some changes be introduced to the breeding regulations?

I agree with you Rona, and thank Hanka for her attempts to clear this issue up.

Something needs to change to make it difficult for people to refuse a simple non-invasive test such as DNA sampling when the identities (and as Rona says, it could be lives in the future, who knows...) of so many dogs are at risk. And for the Czech club, of all clubs, to have no power is very worrying for the future of our beloved breed.

[BeatriceSlavinschi]

Originally Posted by Hanka

Galiba has normal colour and normal mask. I know him personally and it is normal czech. wolfdog.

I also met brother of Galiba: Gizmo. And he is normal czw also ...