Saarloos mixes by "Crying Wolf" kennel (CSV red colored)

Hanka · 09-09-2011, 09:14

But I wrote you, I am sure my females are granddauhters of Galiba.I have not reason to distrust..... I asked owner of Galiba about DNA for my other friends....
I am only one owner of dogs with Galiba in pedigree. I am not his owner, breeder,.... I try to help to my friend, but in real it is not "my work".
I think your question has other adresee. But I see, they don´t react.
Lorry knows, what I did and what I tried to do in this "case".....
But no result.....

Rona · 09-09-2011, 09:32

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Originally Posted by Hanka

But I wrote you, I am sure my females are granddauhters of Galiba.I have not reason to distrust..... I asked owner of Galiba about DNA for my other friends....
But no result.....

I appreciate your attempts and attitude very much.

But my questions was not personal. Doesn't it worry you as member of the Czech Breeding Club that a stud owner in such circumstances may plainly say NO and nothing can be done about it? Even if hunderdes of people were affected and/or the breed put at risk?

(Well, I'm sure dogs don't mind

)

We're talking about genetic identity, but what if this was a matter of some serious gentic illness spreading in the breed ??? Shouldn't some changes be introduced to the breeding regulations?

Hanka · 09-09-2011, 09:40

Aaa, Rona, I think, it is question more for Slovak club as guarant of breed....Because we can do nothing in it case by oficial way....
I can´t answer you it....

Rona · 09-09-2011, 09:56

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Originally Posted by Hanka

Aaa, Rona, I think, it is question more for Slovak club as guarant of breed....Because we can do nothing in it case by oficial way....
I can´t answer you it....

Seems Solvaks keep waiting for Godot

I think this is a matter of each national Kennel/Breed club. On receiving a document granting breeding rights (or at bonitation), the owner should be asked to sign a document stating he is obliged to provide DNA material of the dog if any doubts appear concerning his/her parenthood (+ a list of reliable labs provided). If he refused, he would be banned from the club and his dog would lose breeding rights, so the pups couldn't be registered. This would also mean the dog would not be able to participate in dog shows.

Tough, but I belive necessary in the light of what has been lately happening

BeatriceSlavinschi · 09-09-2011, 12:51

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Originally Posted by Rona

I think this is a matter of each national Kennel/Breed club. On receiving a document granting breeding rights (or at bonitation), the owner should be asked to sign a document stating he is obliged to provide DNA material of the dog if any doubts appear concerning his/her parenthood (+ a list of reliable labs provided). If he refused, he would be banned from the club and his dog would lose breeding rights, so the pups couldn't be registered. This would also mean the dog would not be able to participate in dog shows.

Rona, I agree with you. This is a common sense issue and I think all clubs should do so. And you speak here only for doubtfull litters... I understand in Sweden they do it for obtaining the pedigree for pups. We need to move forward ... for the benefit of our breed.

Shadowlands · 09-09-2011, 09:42

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Originally Posted by Rona

I appreciate your attempts and attitude very much.

But my questions was not personal. Doesn't it worry you as member of the Czech Breeding Club that a stud owner in such circumstances may plainly say NO and nothing can be done about it? Even if hunderdes of people were affected and/or the breed put at risk?

(Well, I'm sure dogs don't mind

)

We're talking about genetic identity, but what if this was a matter of some serious gentic illness spreading in the breed ??? Shouldn't some changes be introduced to the breeding regulations?

I agree with you Rona, and thank Hanka for her attempts to clear this issue up.

Something needs to change to make it difficult for people to refuse a simple non-invasive test such as DNA sampling when the identities (and as Rona says, it could be lives in the future, who knows...) of so many dogs are at risk. And for the Czech club, of all clubs, to have no power is very worrying for the future of our beloved breed.

CDaniela · 09-09-2011, 09:52

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09-09-2011, 09:14	#1
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	But I wrote you, I am sure my females are granddauhters of Galiba.I have not reason to distrust..... I asked owner of Galiba about DNA for my other friends.... I am only one owner of dogs with Galiba in pedigree. I am not his owner, breeder,.... I try to help to my friend, but in real it is not "my work". I think your question has other adresee. But I see, they don´t react. Lorry knows, what I did and what I tried to do in this "case"..... But no result.....

09-09-2011, 09:40	#3
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Aaa, Rona, I think, it is question more for Slovak club as guarant of breed....Because we can do nothing in it case by oficial way.... I can´t answer you it....