Mixes in 'La Louve Blanche' kennel?

[Rona]

I wonder how would an honest breeder, who has always followed the FCI/AKC breeding principles react/behave if somebody accused him/her of breeding mixes or faking pedigrees...

I imagine the first reaction would be anger, but what would be the next step? Ignore the accusations? Take the case to the Kennel Club or to court ? Make the DNA tests of the dogs/pups and ...pay for them?

I'm trying to figure out what would be the most pragmatic and psychologically rational reaction to such accusation

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

That reminds me at the "Tour de France" (what a coincidence), where all the athletes especially the winners claiming not been on Clenbuterol or other substances.
And of course the positive blood tests lie, they're all honest athletes...
All these slanderers.
By the way, in Heigenbrücken/Germany where Franck took part at the club show with the above mentioned dogs my friend Sona Bognárova and I realized instantly that dogs where American wolfdog crosses.
It's all too visible.

Michael

[admin]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

That reminds me at the "Tour de France" (what a coincidence), where all the athletes especially the winners claiming not been on Clenbuterol or other substances.
And of course the positive blood tests lie, they're all honest athletes...
All these slanderers.
By the way, in Heigenbrücken/Germany where Franck took part at the club show with the above mentioned dogs my friend Sona Bognárova and I realized instantly that dogs where American wolfdog crosses.
It's all too visible.

Michael

I think it is visible even more since the breeder feels untouchable by the French kennel club and cheats more and more pedigrees. There is already no doubt that he is producing AWD with CsW pedigrees. It is a fact - also this "athlete" use Clenbuterol. A LOT OF IT...

I think we can easily put ALL de la Louve Blanche dogs as MIXES (since it is not known which are purebreed and which one are mixes - or better said: we have no idea if there are still at least some dogs which are PUREBREED there). Not in the database but in our minds - he is cheating the pedigrees. It is sure. So the whole name of this kennel, all pedigrees coming from this kennel and all kennels using his dogs are worth NOTHING. They are just useless piece of paper....

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by Rona

I wonder how would an honest breeder, who has always followed the FCI/AKC breeding principles react/behave if somebody accused him/her of breeding mixes or faking pedigrees...

I only bean accused for having a F1 Hybrid mix ones, I asked him to call the police and I would wait right there, I also had pedigree copy that I did show him, but he did say the paper was a fake and he was not stupid
It was Swedens biggest holiday ( Midsummer ), so he did say the police will not come all the way out to us in the archipelago, but he was not stupid, he knew it was a F1 Hybrid At this point it was over 30 people looking how this would end, and the man was drunk and angery... I was calm and had not bean drinking at all, so when I did take up my id for him to write of the id number he desided to walk away still very very agery...

But in Sweden, we are accused from the begining by the Swedish Kennel Club, we MUST DNA test all Cs Vlcaks and Saarloos to get the pure FCI pedigree No other dog breeds need to do that...

Very best regards / Mikael

[Rona]

Originally Posted by Mikael

But in Sweden, we are accused from the begining by the Swedish Kennel Club, we MUST DNA test all Cs Vlcaks and Saarloos to get the pure FCI pedigree .

It's not bad... if such requirement existed in other countries there wouldn't be problem with breeding mixes now. Well, unless the tests were conducted honestly

I don't think Frank realizes how much harm he's doing to all honest French breeders by refusing 'DNA confrontation'. Many good owners/breeders (not the wolf maniacs!) from other countries, who aren't particularly knowledgeable in lines, pedigrees, standard, kennels, etc., but who want a typical, pure bred CSV might give up buying a French pup just to be on the safe side
It would be a pity - I rememeber after visiting French club show Margo and Daiva wrote on the Polish WD there were some interesting breeding dogs desceding from ancestors imported to France years ago. The lines which 'disappeared' in the the Czech Republic and Slovakia but survived in France might be valuable for breed diversification now. Provided foreign breeders are not afraid to use them now...