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06-02-2010, 23:21
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Hi Marcy,
it was just a question of time  And who believed the fairytale of the Tamaskan (behavior and origin) anyway...? Michael Last edited by michaelundinaeichhorn; 07-02-2010 at 09:17. |
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07-02-2010, 13:44
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I think this is a global problem, not just UK or US...
People has bean asking me here in Sweden to, from another wolfdog (breed) and I know they have talk to Saarloos owners also...
I think it is very important to point out that this are mix breeders ! They have no experience on how to mix a new breed... They think one new dog will help save there breed... They do not have a register nor club, they do not even know how many dogs they have in there own (breed), they do not have a breed plan and they do not really know how much wolfbood they already have in there (breed) today... Ask them a question back, you get no answer or a very bad answer. Or they just get very very mad. I’m for making new breeds, but I do not support mix breeding, I think there is a very very big difference... And any mixing whit wolf or wolfdogs will create many problems, problems that I think you must be a organisation to handle in a good way... But no I will not mix my CsW to any other dog or dog-breed, not even a serious project  Very best regards / Mikael
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07-02-2010, 22:53
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Only TDR register Tamaskan are true tamaskans. All others a from breeders that mixed and the starter off the breed Tamaskan wants the name Tamaskan off them. Her name was also stolen and misused. If you really want to know more and the truth about it all just visit our forum:http://tdsgbforum.forumup.com/about3...dsgbforum.html or the TDR site http://www.tamaskan-dog.com/index2.htm Or the The Tamaskan Dog Society of Great Britain:http://www.tamaskan-dog.co.uk/ The TBA where you talk about: They are a shame for the breed tamaskan and we do not recognize their offspring as Tamaskans. If the breed is ready for any recognition then only the TBR registered Tamaskan will fall under that. Last edited by miran; 07-02-2010 at 23:01. |
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07-02-2010, 23:22
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more nice links...http://www.the-no-wolf-tamaskan-fable.com/
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07-02-2010, 23:45
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It is a shame that to sell there one not good checked on health issues off spring to make the real tamaskan so black. If they want to start a new breed. That's okee but don't lie about the Tamaskan and use an own name!!!! All used dogs are DNA registered so if you really want to know the truth: DNA doesn't lie And all this BS just started because Takari got a male with one testicle an had the advise not to breed whit him. So they have different opinions and there was fighting. Takari was out of TDR and started to make the TDR black. Shame shame shame. Do what you want but don't involve the real Tamaskan. Last edited by miran; 07-02-2010 at 23:57. |
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08-02-2010, 00:03
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Hmmmmm...
 And how will we know which ones tells the troth  ???Is really all dogs DNA tested ??? If they are, that is very good work, but how can we se this info ??? Ps, post nr #5 is not about the Tamaskan dog. Ds Best regards / Mikael
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08-02-2010, 00:08
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i believe 'certain people' are refusing to dna test 
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08-02-2010, 00:27
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DNA testing is now mandatory. All breeding dogs have to undergo DNA testing. Failure to DNA test will result in the produced litter not being registered until DNA testing has been completed. ( so there of spring can be sweet and beautiful(that's an other story) but they are NOT(yet) Tamaskan!) DNA testing is a safe, non-invasive cheek swab taken by yourself and sent to a special laboratory.
The benefits of DNA testing are numerous. One of our main reasons for starting this DNA testing scheme is to prove parentage. Provided that both parents have been DNA profiled, the parentage of all future puppies can be proved. This will cut down on the number of people breeding any mixture of dogs and claiming they are pure Tamaskan for monetary gain. We recommend puppy purchasers only buy from DNA tested parents. DNA profiling can also help in the future if any genetic disorder is found. We should be able to trace the problem, which will help us in eradicating the problem. Our DNA testing is being undertaken by MMI Genomics. 'The Canine DNA Parentage Test is used to determine parents of dogs. Breeders and owners of dogs use this test to ensure accuracy of breeding records, confirm and guarantee pedigrees and protect breed integrity.' The final profile is provided to you in an attractive certificate that proudly displays your dog’s unique genetic identity. ALWAYS ask for proof of DNA profiling, if your breeder fails to provide this certificate chances are they are not pure, registered Tamaskan. DNA profiling can be done from the day of birth and some breeders may choose to have the whole litter DNA profiled although at the moment DNA testing is only mandatory for breeding dogs. Last edited by miran; 08-02-2010 at 00:34. Reason: forget after Not the word yet because if the litter is DNA profiled and all is wright than they will be registered |
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