Norwegian ban on SW and CzW

XaedasKSP · 20-12-2009, 19:28

To Mikael: The breeder is not going to send me one, I am going to visit the breeder and get the pup personally and everything is already booked and reserved. So I dont think the breeder will care about some anonymous person whining that I get a dog that I have every right to have and break the deal.

And the breeder do perfectly understand that the dog will have a good life at my place since I have exchanged many mails with the breeder also about where I live and how the dog will live etc. So I dont think the breeder will care about my political views, especially since people in DDR dont love the "left side" too much since they too have experienced the "dark side" of socialism.

To Per Olav: You tell me that I shall think in long terms, thats what I do I know that no matter how the law will change my dog will still be legal just as your dog is since it got to Norway before CSV got banned. And by the way doesnt the same apply to you? You have bought a CSV knowing that the dog can get banned.....and now you tell me to not buy a SW since SWs can get banned.....

The SW is becoming an older and older race with each year that pass so the reason for banning them is smaller and smaller all the time, if the age of the race is why it balances on the edge. And the best proof that the race is not threatended by a ban is that a breeder started to breed SWs in Norway, do you think she would do it if the dogs were to get banned?

And I dont understand why you think that I am not suitable to own a SW....I am going to use much more time on training it than most average owners do. And also be extra carfull. So tell me why should I be a greater danger to the race than those 11 (maybe more are on the list now) other anonymous future owners of Saarloos in Norway. Plus all those who will get their dogs later on since the breeder will continue to breed Saarlooses and those who import them like me.....

Per Olav · 20-12-2009, 19:42

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Originally Posted by XaedasKSP

To Per Olav: You tell me that I shall think in long terms, thats what I do I know that no matter how the law will change my dog will still be legal just as your dog is since it got to Norway before CSV got banned. And by the way doesnt the same apply to you? You have bought a CSV knowing that the dog can get banned.....and now you tell me to not buy a SW since SWs can get banned.....

I guess it's time to end this conversation. My dog was imported long time before a little boy was killed by a number of gsd/polar dog mutts and no one at that time even thought of breed spesific legislation and banning a breed just a few people knew the existence of.

Have a merry Christmas.
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XaedasKSP · 20-12-2009, 19:47

I thought that banning of breeds in Norway started already in 1991.....but I shall not bother you more. I just doesnt understand why you think that I am less suitable to own a SW than all those other people who are going to own one in Norway...

Have a nice Christmas you too, and a Happy New Year! And I really hope you succeed in getting CSV legal in Norway and I think that showing the government how nice SWs are living in Norway will help your cause.

Per Olav · 20-12-2009, 20:06

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Originally Posted by XaedasKSP

I thought that banning of breeds in Norway started already in 1991.....but I shall not bother you more. I just doesnt understand why you think that I am less suitable to own a SW than all those other people who are going to own one in Norway...

By 2001 there was no intentions of adding more breeds to the list of banned "fighting dogs", except for the Police who wanted a ban on the American Staffordshire Terrier cause its close relations to the previous banned Pitbull. No one ever dreamed of a proposal of banning the wolfdog breeds - which later was raised by members of what in popular terms is called the Norwegian association of wolf haters and its supporters which at that time strongly lobbyed our Ministry of Justice.
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Merry Xmas

Mikael · 21-12-2009, 00:28

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Originally Posted by XaedasKSP

To Mikael: The breeder is not going to send me one, I am going to visit the breeder and get the pup personally and everything is already booked and reserved. So I dont think the breeder will care about some anonymous person whining that I get a dog that I have every right to have and break the deal.

Well I´m not going to tell Alexandra at kennel Tachunga nothing, I´m just going to give her the link to this topic, the rest is up to her

I might just help her whit translation if she wont´s to

And I know that you love me to

Very best regards / Mikael

XaedasKSP · 21-12-2009, 01:09

Yes ofc. just show the breeder the whole topic its no problem for me if I were in doubt that the breeder understands it that I will properly take care of the dog and use very much time on it, then do you think I would write about it here or link to the kennel on the polish forum (so you can go there watch the pictures and copy paste the internet adress)? Ahh and dont worry that you will have to "translate" the breeder speaks very well english (I didnt have to write german on the mail) so your great chance of "translating" it to your favour is sadly lost.

What you just dont understand is that people from other parts of the world outside Scandinavia wont blame me for hating socialism, since both in Poland or in DDR they know very well the "dark sides" of it. The best proof is this forum, after I wrote that I shall buy an SW that is legal in Norway people on the polish forum helped me to find a breeder and congratulated upon finding a pup that I can buy.

While here was a totally different approach that met me, you know very well that I will take good care of the SW and that its 100 % legal in Norway. Still you get mad because I found a legal solution of having a wolfdog in Norway. People in Poland know this too but the difference is that they dont care if I hate socialists cause many of them probably do it too... but since on this forum its not allowed to write about politics then I shall stop there.....

Per Olav · 21-12-2009, 10:04

Please stop this ignorant young man from spreading his political nonsense and insulting other peoples political point of view on this forum.
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Rona · 21-12-2009, 12:00

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Originally Posted by Per Olav

Please stop this ignorant young man from spreading his political nonsense and insulting other peoples political point of view on this forum.

I already pity his dog (if he mangages to get one

). What, if the poor animal will not be able to express support for his owners' political views, or, even worse, will not share them?!

Angelika · 22-12-2009, 15:51

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Originally Posted by Rona

I already pity his dog (if he mangages to get one

). What, if the poor animal will not be able to express support for his owners' political views, or, even worse, will not share them?!

.... or does not like vodka as much as his owner does???!!

Rona · 22-12-2009, 15:59

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Originally Posted by Angelika

.... or does not like vodka as much as his owner does???!!

Be careful Angelika, this might also be interpreted as writing about politics

Angelika · 22-12-2009, 15:37

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Originally Posted by Mikael

I´m just going to give her the link to this topic, the rest is up to her

Thank you, Mikael

21-12-2009, 10:04	#7
Per Olav Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 395	Dear webmaster/moderators Please stop this ignorant young man from spreading his political nonsense and insulting other peoples political point of view on this forum. -- po __________________ Per Olav Last edited by Per Olav; 21-12-2009 at 10:11.

20-12-2009, 19:28	#1
XaedasKSP Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skien/Oslo Posts: 83	To Mikael: The breeder is not going to send me one, I am going to visit the breeder and get the pup personally and everything is already booked and reserved. So I dont think the breeder will care about some anonymous person whining that I get a dog that I have every right to have and break the deal. And the breeder do perfectly understand that the dog will have a good life at my place since I have exchanged many mails with the breeder also about where I live and how the dog will live etc. So I dont think the breeder will care about my political views, especially since people in DDR dont love the "left side" too much since they too have experienced the "dark side" of socialism. To Per Olav: You tell me that I shall think in long terms, thats what I do I know that no matter how the law will change my dog will still be legal just as your dog is since it got to Norway before CSV got banned. And by the way doesnt the same apply to you? You have bought a CSV knowing that the dog can get banned.....and now you tell me to not buy a SW since SWs can get banned..... The SW is becoming an older and older race with each year that pass so the reason for banning them is smaller and smaller all the time, if the age of the race is why it balances on the edge. And the best proof that the race is not threatended by a ban is that a breeder started to breed SWs in Norway, do you think she would do it if the dogs were to get banned? And I dont understand why you think that I am not suitable to own a SW....I am going to use much more time on training it than most average owners do. And also be extra carfull. So tell me why should I be a greater danger to the race than those 11 (maybe more are on the list now) other anonymous future owners of Saarloos in Norway. Plus all those who will get their dogs later on since the breeder will continue to breed Saarlooses and those who import them like me.....

20-12-2009, 19:47	#3
XaedasKSP Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skien/Oslo Posts: 83	I thought that banning of breeds in Norway started already in 1991.....but I shall not bother you more. I just doesnt understand why you think that I am less suitable to own a SW than all those other people who are going to own one in Norway... Have a nice Christmas you too, and a Happy New Year! And I really hope you succeed in getting CSV legal in Norway and I think that showing the government how nice SWs are living in Norway will help your cause.

21-12-2009, 01:09	#6
XaedasKSP Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skien/Oslo Posts: 83	Yes ofc. just show the breeder the whole topic its no problem for me if I were in doubt that the breeder understands it that I will properly take care of the dog and use very much time on it, then do you think I would write about it here or link to the kennel on the polish forum (so you can go there watch the pictures and copy paste the internet adress)? Ahh and dont worry that you will have to "translate" the breeder speaks very well english (I didnt have to write german on the mail) so your great chance of "translating" it to your favour is sadly lost. What you just dont understand is that people from other parts of the world outside Scandinavia wont blame me for hating socialism, since both in Poland or in DDR they know very well the "dark sides" of it. The best proof is this forum, after I wrote that I shall buy an SW that is legal in Norway people on the polish forum helped me to find a breeder and congratulated upon finding a pup that I can buy. While here was a totally different approach that met me, you know very well that I will take good care of the SW and that its 100 % legal in Norway. Still you get mad because I found a legal solution of having a wolfdog in Norway. People in Poland know this too but the difference is that they dont care if I hate socialists cause many of them probably do it too... but since on this forum its not allowed to write about politics then I shall stop there.....