Misleading article about Hybrids and Wolfdogs

Joswolf · 20-11-2009, 19:53

That was for a long time ago. Over 30 years no wolf used and domestication. Its a dog. Or any dog is a pure wolf then no other animal is used. A wolfhybride is nothing like a Saarloos. A Saarloos i a family dog.

Mikael · 20-11-2009, 19:57

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Originally Posted by Joswolf

That was for a long time ago. Over 30 years no wolf used and domestication. Its a dog. Or any dog is a pure wolf then no other animal is used. A wolfhybride is nothing like a Saarloos. A Saarloos i a family dog.

That is data from CsV and Saarloos born 2005-2009

Data link on post #20

Regards / M

Joswolf · 20-11-2009, 20:09

Then your data is wrong. I am committee member and should now. Saarloos was lived 1884-1969 and after that now wolf was used. Selection makes it a dog after the years. It's not a wolfhybride anymore but a dog.
I have wolves, hybrides and Saarloos and see the differnce every day.
Jos

Mikael · 20-11-2009, 20:23

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Originally Posted by Joswolf

Then your data is wrong. I am committee member and should now. Saarloos was lived 1884-1969 and after that now wolf was used. Selection makes it a dog after the years. It's not a wolfhybride anymore but a dog.
I have wolves, hybrides and Saarloos and see the differnce every day.
Jos

Yes you are right the data is wrong as it is mathematic, but according to the data calculated from your database the Saarloos breed has a higher mathematic woolfblood than CsV

There for I think you are wrong to say Saarloos is a dog but not CsV

And remember they are both dog breed´s according to the FCI

Best regards / Mikael

Nebulosa · 20-11-2009, 21:45

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Originally Posted by Mikael

Yes you are right the data is wrong as it is mathematic, but according to the data calculated from your database the Saarloos breed has a higher mathematic woolfblood than CsV

There for I think you are wrong to say Saarloos is a dog but not CsV

And remember they are both dog breed´s according to the FCI

Best regards / Mikael

The wolf percentage will be only trully alterated if someone add new blood of wolf or dog, untill it not happens the percentagen will stay with a very small variation dog by dog, in whole breed, we can say "static"... it doesn't make the dog more wolf or dog, the selection is what will make the difference in this question.
Anyway, Saarloos as CzW are selected dog breed which comes from a cross between wolf and dog, this kind of mixage isn't new and some other breeds have, but at the FCI breeds seems that only SWH and CZW have this mixage as officially (made propositally, with studie and, not necessarelly at start but maybe after some time, with the will to make a new breed).

20-11-2009, 19:53	#1
Joswolf Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 757	That was for a long time ago. Over 30 years no wolf used and domestication. Its a dog. Or any dog is a pure wolf then no other animal is used. A wolfhybride is nothing like a Saarloos. A Saarloos i a family dog.

20-11-2009, 20:09	#3
Joswolf Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 757	Then your data is wrong. I am committee member and should now. Saarloos was lived 1884-1969 and after that now wolf was used. Selection makes it a dog after the years. It's not a wolfhybride anymore but a dog. I have wolves, hybrides and Saarloos and see the differnce every day. Jos