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My oldest male and female are registered with the AKC Foundation Stock Service (FSS), which is the preliminary phase for rare or new breeds. My younger female's paperwork is pending, my younger male will be registered once I have his paperwork from Italy. After 300 dogs/150 owners are registered with the FSS, the breed moves into the Miscellaneous class for a year before being eligible for AKC sanctioned conformation events. In the FSS phase, the CSV is eligible for performance, working and companion events once a breed club, standard, and 3 generation pedigreed dogs are established in the US. The AKC and FCI will reciprocate with pedigrees - each honors the other. Imported dogs must be DNA verified with the AKC (and match the microchip/tattoo inserted by the breeder's vet) before their litters can be registered. Beyond that, is up to the American breed club to establish a code of ethics for breeders related to the AKC. At this point in time, I imagine most, if not all, CSVs bred in the US will remain in the US (although I have had some inquiries about future litters from some mutt breeders in the UK - I didn't respond ![]() I also health test all of my dogs before I breed...my 2 oldest have their Penn-Hip results (which takes 3 x-rays - distraction, Norberg, and standard hip-extended view). In the standard hip-extended view, it was noted that there was no degenerative joint disease - HD, or cavitation in either dog. In laxity (looseness of hips), my male (Taabernakkelin Hronsek) had hip results of 0.38 and 0.39. My female (Anthea od Vlci SKaly) had hip results of 0.23 and 0.37. Both were in the 80th percentile for all breeds - they have tighter hips than 80% of all dogs tested. As far as I know, they are the only CSVs to take the Penn-Hip evaluation (currently it is a closed database). Once 20 CSVs have been tested, there will be specific statistics for the breed, and results will be even more useful and accurate. Margo already has copies of my certificate - it's her choice to use them (or not) if she thinks they will benefit the website. ![]() Penn Hip website: http://research.vet.upenn.edu/Defaul...nn.edu/pennhip Tool to find certified Penn-Hip vets in different countries that give Penn-Hip tests (in the USA, it's a bit more expensive than OFA - but the standard x-ray can be taken at the same time, so x-rays only need to be taken once for submission to other foundations). Penn-hip will provide statistics for breed clubs: http://research.vet.upenn.edu/Default.aspx?TabId=3539 Articles on the science of Penn-Hip: http://www.amrottclub.org/health_pennhip.shtml http://www.canismajor.com/dog/pennhip1.html I will be testing for ED once my female is 2 years. Results will be found here (OFA hip results for 2 wolfdogs - not mine - can already be found here): http://www.offa.org/search.html (scroll to Czechoslovakian Wolfdog) My CERF (eye) results are pending, and will be found here: http://sunnycrest.vmdb.org/CerfWebSe...rchByName.aspx Once I figure out a way to export my dog's blood to the Netherlands, I'd also like to test for the dwarfism gene. ![]() I love this breed, and really do want to start things out right in the USA...this year I was very lucky to see my first bonitation (in Roudnice nad Labem, in April), and also to meet Karel Hartl and many owners, breeders and wolfdogs! ![]() Blusteel also has very good intentions, and have a history of ethical breeding of the Cane Corso. All of the very best, Marcy
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As far as litters/breeders being listed on this site, I think it is the regulation that kennels that breed mixes are banished - whether they are from the UK or another country...I've never bred a mixed litter (or purebred CSV litter), or had my dogs involved with one, so maybe it is also the reason I am still listed. If I followed the practice, I would also be banished. I think the "elusive Admin" ![]() As for the AKC...haha...that is a whole different huge, ugly can of worms. It is based on money - until you have a large amount of dogs registered, the AKC doesn't think it is worth their time to devote attention to a breed. Once a breed is recognized, it becomes very political with professional handlers. Many newer (especially working) breed clubs have fought against recognition by the AKC...us Americans have a bad reputation for doing bad things to some dog breeds ![]() Marcy
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As usual when some users are around the thread is totally out of its original text.
Can we create another endless thread AGAIN for UK&US breeding please by the way, i asked already and ask again WHO IS ADMIN massimo
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Most discussions evolve (in person, or on a forum) in different ways - but maybe next time I will start 10 new threads for each related thought or detail I have about a topic. ![]() As far as I know, there are no threads (other than people popping on every now and then to ask about it) about American breeding - since no litters have ever been bred in the US. If moderators or Admin want to move it to a new thread, it's no problem. In that case, I apologize for my confusion. I have faith in them to make a good judgement. I don't think Admin is Mickey Mouse - it's either Margo or Przemek - or someone they trust - and that is enough for me. Don't deride me, please, Massimo....so far as I know, I have done nothing to wrong you... ![]() Marcy
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Hello everybody. I have not frustration about unknown new admin, I want only ask admin, if he can give on web my add about pups od Úhoště from my Wickey, which I sent him two weeks ago........
And today I sent HD and ED results of my Unique od Úhoště. So, please, admin, don´t forget on me................ thanks Hanka |
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Dear Admin,
Is there any special reason why my datas (new owners and HD results!!! ) and my planned litters are not updated????? I'm waiting for your response! Thanks, Edit |
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Hi,
Is possible to know when was the last update and when will be the next one? I have sent datas almost a month ago and nothing happened!!!! Thanks, Edit |
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Ciao Massimo,
According to Pavel, the database is still in Margo`s care ? http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11828 (post 3) Best greetings Rolf |
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I have no further comments on any subjects untill Admin will be named, start answering questions directed to him/her and share the scources of his/her claimed scientific work ...until that happens Admin is just a troll, like anybody else in the past who did not want to stand by it`s own opinions by name...
Rolf |
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