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After the breed will be accepted by KC and the puppies will get "normal" (FCI recognized) pedigrees the responsible breeders (who do not mix CzW with any other breeds) from GB will appear on the list. |
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My oldest male and female are registered with the AKC Foundation Stock Service (FSS), which is the preliminary phase for rare or new breeds. My younger female's paperwork is pending, my younger male will be registered once I have his paperwork from Italy. After 300 dogs/150 owners are registered with the FSS, the breed moves into the Miscellaneous class for a year before being eligible for AKC sanctioned conformation events. In the FSS phase, the CSV is eligible for performance, working and companion events once a breed club, standard, and 3 generation pedigreed dogs are established in the US. The AKC and FCI will reciprocate with pedigrees - each honors the other. Imported dogs must be DNA verified with the AKC (and match the microchip/tattoo inserted by the breeder's vet) before their litters can be registered. Beyond that, is up to the American breed club to establish a code of ethics for breeders related to the AKC. At this point in time, I imagine most, if not all, CSVs bred in the US will remain in the US (although I have had some inquiries about future litters from some mutt breeders in the UK - I didn't respond ![]() I also health test all of my dogs before I breed...my 2 oldest have their Penn-Hip results (which takes 3 x-rays - distraction, Norberg, and standard hip-extended view). In the standard hip-extended view, it was noted that there was no degenerative joint disease - HD, or cavitation in either dog. In laxity (looseness of hips), my male (Taabernakkelin Hronsek) had hip results of 0.38 and 0.39. My female (Anthea od Vlci SKaly) had hip results of 0.23 and 0.37. Both were in the 80th percentile for all breeds - they have tighter hips than 80% of all dogs tested. As far as I know, they are the only CSVs to take the Penn-Hip evaluation (currently it is a closed database). Once 20 CSVs have been tested, there will be specific statistics for the breed, and results will be even more useful and accurate. Margo already has copies of my certificate - it's her choice to use them (or not) if she thinks they will benefit the website. ![]() Penn Hip website: http://research.vet.upenn.edu/Defaul...nn.edu/pennhip Tool to find certified Penn-Hip vets in different countries that give Penn-Hip tests (in the USA, it's a bit more expensive than OFA - but the standard x-ray can be taken at the same time, so x-rays only need to be taken once for submission to other foundations). Penn-hip will provide statistics for breed clubs: http://research.vet.upenn.edu/Default.aspx?TabId=3539 Articles on the science of Penn-Hip: http://www.amrottclub.org/health_pennhip.shtml http://www.canismajor.com/dog/pennhip1.html I will be testing for ED once my female is 2 years. Results will be found here (OFA hip results for 2 wolfdogs - not mine - can already be found here): http://www.offa.org/search.html (scroll to Czechoslovakian Wolfdog) My CERF (eye) results are pending, and will be found here: http://sunnycrest.vmdb.org/CerfWebSe...rchByName.aspx Once I figure out a way to export my dog's blood to the Netherlands, I'd also like to test for the dwarfism gene. ![]() I love this breed, and really do want to start things out right in the USA...this year I was very lucky to see my first bonitation (in Roudnice nad Labem, in April), and also to meet Karel Hartl and many owners, breeders and wolfdogs! ![]() Blusteel also has very good intentions, and have a history of ethical breeding of the Cane Corso. All of the very best, Marcy
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As far as litters/breeders being listed on this site, I think it is the regulation that kennels that breed mixes are banished - whether they are from the UK or another country...I've never bred a mixed litter (or purebred CSV litter), or had my dogs involved with one, so maybe it is also the reason I am still listed. If I followed the practice, I would also be banished. I think the "elusive Admin" ![]() As for the AKC...haha...that is a whole different huge, ugly can of worms. It is based on money - until you have a large amount of dogs registered, the AKC doesn't think it is worth their time to devote attention to a breed. Once a breed is recognized, it becomes very political with professional handlers. Many newer (especially working) breed clubs have fought against recognition by the AKC...us Americans have a bad reputation for doing bad things to some dog breeds ![]() Marcy
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As usual when some users are around the thread is totally out of its original text.
Can we create another endless thread AGAIN for UK&US breeding please by the way, i asked already and ask again WHO IS ADMIN massimo
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Most discussions evolve (in person, or on a forum) in different ways - but maybe next time I will start 10 new threads for each related thought or detail I have about a topic. ![]() As far as I know, there are no threads (other than people popping on every now and then to ask about it) about American breeding - since no litters have ever been bred in the US. If moderators or Admin want to move it to a new thread, it's no problem. In that case, I apologize for my confusion. I have faith in them to make a good judgement. I don't think Admin is Mickey Mouse - it's either Margo or Przemek - or someone they trust - and that is enough for me. Don't deride me, please, Massimo....so far as I know, I have done nothing to wrong you... ![]() Marcy
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Ciao Massimo,
According to Pavel, the database is still in Margo`s care ? http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11828 (post 3) Best greetings Rolf |
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was this not done in Europe? maybe i get mixed up........ |
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Hi admin, I sent you 2 emails already , with question, if you have my last new datas ....no answer.
So I don´t know if I can continue with sending of new datas over " add owner". And I sent you 2x results of HD and HD of Valska od Úhoště. is all OK? |
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only UP........
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Please don't take me personally but... if you want to write something to Admin which is between the two of you and doesn't regard all of us, why do you have to write it here on the forum?
![]() ![]() I mean, if you complain because Admin doesn't update your data then I would understand because it would somehow regard all of us, maybe there is a conspiracy against you and your kennel (yours, Edit's, Riccardo's, Rolf...). Admin, PLEASE, can you give us a schedule for updating data so we all know what you are up to? Do you need any help? I'm sure you would find many volunteers ready to help.
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No Massimo, I have nothing against her
![]() I wrote a few emails with new dazas, other I sent over "add owner". I see, here was a few updating on page, but nothing new about my kennel. I had from admin (a few months ago) email, where admin ask me about some datas. I sent it, but.....nothing. In last email I wrote to admin, if I must write something more. but no answer. I understand, now is much more important things (everything about pups, litters, breeders want sell pups) and I understand it is more importanat than some "old" litters. But for me is enough: "Yes, Hanka, we have info about your old litters, it will be in database later." Or: "send it once again in email, because "add owner" does not work well and we have not datas from you" I need not more Massimo. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Admin wont some old datas from me, I arranged it from stud book in Prag, I sent it to WD, but no answer if they have it or no. I think new admin taked too big work and now admin has not time for everything. it is too much work, datas, fotos, etc.etc. I thing for it must be a litlle bigger team. Not only one really workindg person. |
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One question Hanka: did you sent the data BEFORE the last update and they were not included in the database? or Did you sent them AFTER it and I have again to write the old text
"THERE WAS NOT DATABASE UPDATE AND BECAUSE OF IT THEY CAN NOT BE THERE. THEY WILL BE VISIBLE AFTER THE NEXT UPDATE" There is no way to inform people every 2-3 days "Your emails are there, we are working on them" Sorry for bit angry post but it is really annoying the explain obvious things to the same people over and over again. PS. Hanka, thank you for your information but your emails were sent AFTER the last update. And will be added after the next update as it was working since severeal years... |
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