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Old 21-02-2009, 20:04   #1
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This is very interesting !
We have something almost similary in the Nordic countries.
If a dog already is champion in one of the nordic countries, then it will only need 1 x CAC from another nordic country to be champion of this country too.
Yes, but you do not have your own very strong regulations for the Champion title...
On one side CMKU requires working exams and do not recognize even the SVP1 which is the FCI recognized exam for CzW but on the other side gives "Czech Champion" title for only one CAC... It is a little bit schizophrenic for me...
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Old 21-02-2009, 20:33   #2
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Yes, but you do not have your own very strong regulations for the Champion title...
On one side CMKU requires working exams and do not recognize even the SVP1 which is the FCI recognized exam for CzW but on the other side gives "Czech Champion" title for only one CAC... It is a little bit schizophrenic for me...
No we don`t have strong regulations for CSW to be danish champions, but other breeds like GSD must have working exam(IPO1 or BHP1) to get this title and still they will only need 1 x CAC in another nordic country to be champion of that country too... but only if they already are Danish champions(and ofcourse it is the same the other way around).

I agree that it sounds VERY strange, that ČMKU will not recognize a FCI workingcertificat for the title Czech champion, but what is even more strange in this question, regulations for obtaining the title Czech champion say nothing about specific exams, only that the dog must have a workingcertificat.

Regulations for Czech champion :
http://www.cmku.cz/index2.php?stranka=rady_a_predpisy

Greetings Rolf
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Old 21-02-2009, 23:36   #3
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Hi Margo, if you know a few dogs what are Czech chmpion without exam, write me (maybe private email) names, I ask about it. Because I think, it is not possible.
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Old 22-02-2009, 00:22   #4
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Hi Margo, if you know a few dogs what are Czech chmpion without exam, write me (maybe private email) names, I ask about it. Because I think, it is not possible.
hm, if I have this question I call to me kennel society and quest who dogs have this titel.If this be problematic make in CZ and dogs name mas Margo search?
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But I have not question for ČMKU. I only write Margo, I can ask how it is possible, if she had seen it somewhere. Maybe theese dogs have exam??? But if I don´t know who is it I can´t speak (write) about it in this moment.
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Old 23-02-2009, 11:37   #6
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I got answer from ČMKU today :

Hallo,

Obtaining of teh Czech Championship certificate

Send by airmail to the office:
-copy pedigree
-original of the cards certifying obtaining the CAC
-the CAC must have been awarded by at lest two different judges
-the CAC must have been obtained in at least two show seasons
-15 euro

Breeds subjekt to working trials:
-2x CAC (at least one obtained at an international show)
-a copy of the certificate of a required working trial

Lenka Fairaislová
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Jankovcova 53/C
170 00 Praha 7



-----Original Message-----
From: Rolf Larsen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Czech champion


Hello Lenka Fairaislova,



I have a question about the titel "Czech champion".



If my Czechoslovakian wolfdog have a FCI workingcertificat from passing

SVP1 in Slovakia and 2 x CAC(1 from club dogshow and 1 from

international dogshow in both Czech rep.), will he be awarded the

titel "Czech champion" ?



Regards Rolf Larsen

So I guess SVP1 is sufficient for obtaining the title Czech champion

Greetings Rolf
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Old 23-02-2009, 19:23   #7
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I got answer from ČMKU today :

Hallo,

Obtaining of teh Czech Championship certificate

Send by airmail to the office:
-copy pedigree
-original of the cards certifying obtaining the CAC
-the CAC must have been awarded by at lest two different judges
-the CAC must have been obtained in at least two show seasons
-15 euro

Breeds subjekt to working trials:
-2x CAC (at least one obtained at an international show)
-a copy of the certificate of a required working trial

Lenka Fairaislová
CMKU
Jankovcova 53/C
170 00 Praha 7



-----Original Message-----
From: Rolf Larsen [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Czech champion


Hello Lenka Fairaislova,



I have a question about the titel "Czech champion".



If my Czechoslovakian wolfdog have a FCI workingcertificat from passing

SVP1 in Slovakia and 2 x CAC(1 from club dogshow and 1 from

international dogshow in both Czech rep.), will he be awarded the

titel "Czech champion" ?



Regards Rolf Larsen

So I guess SVP1 is sufficient for obtaining the title Czech champion

Greetings Rolf
If I understan right ? CONGRATULATION to Uno and you Rolf

Best regards / Mikael
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Old 23-02-2009, 12:58   #8
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But I have not question for ČMKU. I only write Margo, I can ask how it is possible, if she had seen it somewhere. Maybe theese dogs have exam??? But if I don´t know who is it I can´t speak (write) about it in this moment.
Hanka, sory but me very like this joke Margo not be CMKU and she not thake CZ CH. see : You wish have LT CH and quest me why this dog have with 1 winner titel LT CH but others mas have 4 CAC, I say - quest me LKD she thake oficial dyplomas not I
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Old 21-02-2009, 23:40   #9
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I finaly found the thread about Czech champion, I was looking for
...and according to this translation from Czech club meeting, a working certificat from SVP1 is sufficient to get title Czech champion

http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8683

So to clear all misunderstandings, I have written an email to ČMKU and are waiting for an answer, which I will post in this thread.

Greetings Rolf

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Old 21-02-2009, 23:47   #10
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So Iam very courious what they will answer you . Inform me,please......
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