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20-02-2009, 19:18
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For example: I will go to Slovakia for SVP. My female has muuuch titles in Slovakia, Germany, Czech. It menas she can be champion of Slovakia, Germany, but not czech champion. For czech champion she must have some WORKING exam from this list
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20-02-2009, 19:24
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I forgot: ZPOP is exam for dogs what handled sheeps. Really good work for our breed
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20-02-2009, 19:55
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20-02-2009, 20:44
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hmmm, I thought I ansewred. Maybe somebody with better english can explain it more...
No, ČMKU will not recognized workingcertificate from other states for Czech champion. If you mean something another, write me email  )
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20-02-2009, 22:25
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You did answer
, I was just not sure that I understood right, because I thought a workingcertificat was international and should be recognized in all FCI countries ...but I guess that I was wrong !!!Greetings Rolf |
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20-02-2009, 23:51
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21-02-2009, 00:19
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 I have just read the regulations for Czech champion again and it says nothing about specific exams, but only that the dog must be eligible for entering the workingclass, so a FCI workingcertificat should be sufficient for a dog to obtain the title "Czech beauty champion"  "Awarding of the Czech Champion title is subject to the following conditions: 1) a) in breeds subject to working trials to be eligible for the International Champion title: successful passing of a trial that makes the dog elegible for entering the working class, and obtaining two CACs, of which at least one must have been obtained at an international dog show. The second CAC can have been obtained at one of the following shows: national, special or club show. The certificate required for working class must be furnished as a proof of passing of the trial. Breeders Clubs are entitled to increase the number of CACs required for the awarding of Czech Champion title. The request must be submitted in writing and approved by P ÈMKU (General Committee of the Czech Canine Union)." Working champion is different ofcourse... When reading the rules for Czech working champion, it only say how many CACT the dog must have, not in which exams CACT can be awarded(for example in Denmark can a only dog who have obtained IPO3 be Danish working champion) ....this is my original question ! As I am sure a dog can be Czech beauty champion by obtaining a workingcertificat(does not matter from which exam or country) as the regulations clearly says... Now when thinking of it, maybe I misunderstod Hanka ? Hanka : the list of exams you wrote are they for obtaining workingcertificat or for Czech working champion ? Greetings Rolf Last edited by Juniorwolf; 21-02-2009 at 00:41. Reason: more text |
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20-02-2009, 19:54
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When completing SVP1 in Slovakia it is possible to get workingcertificat(from FCI), which means the dog can compete in workingclass in all countries, will ČMKU not recognize a workingcertificat from FCI as valid for Czech champion ? Greetings Rolf Last edited by Juniorwolf; 20-02-2009 at 19:56. |
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21-02-2009, 12:00
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but I know dogs which get Czech Champion titles last time but have ONLY SVP1 or even NONE of the certificates recognized as "working certificates" for CzW... 
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21-02-2009, 12:54
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 How can a dog get the title Czech champion without a workingcertificat ? Greetings Rolf |
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21-02-2009, 13:09
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For interchampion title CzW needs a working certificate. It is also a theory because I know at last three dogs which get it but did not passed even the BASIC obedience test...
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21-02-2009, 13:34
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21-02-2009, 15:25
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I just get more interesting information... there are some countries which have 'contract' with CMKU and dogs can be Czech Champion already when the get ONE CAC... 
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21-02-2009, 19:48
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We have something almost similary in the Nordic countries. If a dog already is champion in one of the nordic countries, then it will only need 1 x CAC from another nordic country to be champion of this country too. Greetings Rolf |
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