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Old 20-02-2009, 19:24   #1
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I forgot: ZPOP is exam for dogs what handled sheeps. Really good work for our breed
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I forgot: ZPOP is exam for dogs what handled sheeps. Really good work for our breed
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Old 20-02-2009, 20:44   #3
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hmmm, I thought I ansewred. Maybe somebody with better english can explain it more...
No, ČMKU will not recognized workingcertificate from other states for Czech champion. If you mean something another, write me email )
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You did answer , I was just not sure that I understood right, because I thought a workingcertificat was international and should be recognized in all FCI countries ...but I guess that I was wrong !!!

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You did answer , I was just not sure that I understood right, because I thought a workingcertificat was international and should be recognized in all FCI countries ...but I guess that I was wrong !!!

Greetings Rolf
As far as I know, the rules for getting a national champion title (e.g. Czech champion, German champion, Swiss champion) can be different in the countries, because it is up to the kennel club of the country to decide, what is needed for champion titel. In Germany e.g. you don't need any working certificate at all to get German Champion title.

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Old 21-02-2009, 00:19   #6
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As far as I know, the rules for getting a national champion title (e.g. Czech champion, German champion, Swiss champion) can be different in the countries, because it is up to the kennel club of the country to decide, what is needed for champion titel. In Germany e.g. you don't need any working certificate at all to get German Champion title.

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I fully agree and understand, in Denmark some breeds need a workingcertificat and other breeds don`t need it, but if a dog need a workingcertificat to be national champion(of any country) all workingcertificat`s should be accepted by the country, because it is not the country themselves who gives this certificat`s, but FCI, which makes it international and a dog who have obtained a workingcertificat, can be showed in workingclass in all countries who cooperate with FCI

I have just read the regulations for Czech champion again and it says nothing about specific exams, but only that the dog must be eligible for entering the workingclass, so a FCI workingcertificat should be sufficient for a dog to obtain the title "Czech beauty champion"

"Awarding of the Czech Champion title is subject to the following conditions:
1) a) in breeds subject to working trials to be eligible for the International Champion title: successful passing of a trial that makes the dog elegible for entering the working class, and obtaining two CACs, of which at least one must have been obtained at an international dog show. The second CAC can have been obtained at one of the following shows: national, special or club show. The certificate required for working class must be furnished as a proof of passing of the trial. Breeders Clubs are entitled to increase the number of CACs required for the awarding of Czech Champion title. The request must be submitted in writing and approved by P ÈMKU (General Committee of the Czech Canine Union)."

Working champion is different ofcourse...
When reading the rules for Czech working champion, it only say how many CACT the dog must have, not in which exams CACT can be awarded(for example in Denmark can a only dog who have obtained IPO3 be Danish working champion) ....this is my original question ! As I am sure a dog can be Czech beauty champion by obtaining a workingcertificat(does not matter from which exam or country) as the regulations clearly says...

Now when thinking of it, maybe I misunderstod Hanka ?

Hanka : the list of exams you wrote are they for obtaining workingcertificat or for Czech working champion ?

Greetings Rolf

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