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Old 10-12-2008, 13:12   #1
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So the assertion "But Edit sells the puppies normaly with 5,5 weeks and this is a good age so puppies won´t miss a thing." from hanninadina was false.

NB: regarding puppies cognitive development the very minimum is 7 weeks, 7 weeks and half.
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Old 10-12-2008, 14:02   #2
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the mainpoint of the communication was about the caracter of M litter............ somebody wrote that Mephy has bad caracter...what is not right.... Christian answered that he saw M litter when they were young and akll of them were ok.Suski had to work Mephy hard because he was 8 month old when she got him...... that's why Christian wrote that normaly I sale my pups in puppy age


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PS: I realy start to boring that my kennel...though my dogs win a lot, owner of my dogs are satisfied with theire crying wolf pups......always appear in bad focus.....
It is a shame.........for the all breed
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Old 10-12-2008, 14:58   #3
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That's your view. Talking about the age a pup should or should not be sell is not a shame, but information (the future buyer reading this now knows more about this point) - the fact that it's talk in this thread is owing to hanninadina assertion -. What's a shame for the breed is, for example, breeding program of some breeders, and I can go deeper into technical detail .
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Old 10-12-2008, 15:45   #4
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HUMMMMMMMMMM!!!!Don't worry edit ... this guy allways try to discredit yu and yur kennel .. and of course me ... y can attest that y allways buy my pupps after 8 WEEKS (volos/ckaran/yarl yanatos)!!! merlin and ossa have 18 months /wally 8 months... and other french people too ..... y don't understand this new topic ... a new present just arrive near christmas tree !!!! regards .. f
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Old 11-12-2008, 13:31   #5
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Hi Elf,

I made a mistake, I just did look on a calender from 2004. The M-Litter was born on 30.1.04. I went to Edit at the 13th of march. 6 weeks and one day after birth.

Do you have wolfdogs? I don´t think so, otherwise you have to know that it is very important that the puppies will get as early as possible to new owner so that they will get a good relationship. Sure it is to think about that puppies in this early age will miss some things playing with the brothers and sisters and mother who will teach them. So everytime it is important to find good new owners who will be able to give it to the puppies.

And of course, Edit has very good dogs and of course they did win and will win a lot of titles and good bonitations, as Myla did with bonitation from Sona Boogerova with Of R 1 P 1. I mean to remember it was the best result in this bonitation from all dogs. And of course she is czech clubchampion from 2007 wining against the raining world champion 2007. Do you have more questions, Elf?

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Quote:
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Hi Christian, I know not bad wolfdogs and always asks people when I don't know something (especially Nicole Wilde I consider as one of the very best for wolfdogs), I can tell you 6 weeks is to early (if you need reference about this send me a PM I would send you scientist publications about it), this often leads to hyperactivity trouble (if all is nice with your Myla it's all good, but one cannot expect it's the rule for pups separated the age of 6 weeks for the mother). Wolfdogs the age of 8 weeks have no problem to make strong bond with the owner, and this give 4 more weeks for the owner to make efficient socialisation. All this phase correspond of well know cognitive development.
I have the two books of Nicole Wilde. They are very good and the only ones who describe wolfdog behaviour from an objective side.

If you have publication, I am very interested in these kind of work. I have a lot of. Books are only a handful.

Best socialization is in the new home. Maybe you are right that 8 weeks is enough I often ask myself where is the best point. But if you have adult dogs and young ones at home it would be best solution. My canadian wolfdog was raised up with one month older briard female - french herding dog - and of course Myla with 4 years as her "mother". It was almost perfect if you see now her behaviour.

It is difficult to tell what is the best. It depends on the breeder what work he is doing in the first weeks. And what the new owner is able to do.

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Old 12-12-2008, 18:28   #7
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Best socialization is in the new home. Maybe you are right that 8 weeks is enough I often ask myself where is the best point. But if you have adult dogs and young ones at home it would be best solution. My canadian wolfdog was raised up with one month older briard female - french herding dog - and of course Myla with 4 years as her "mother". It was almost perfect if you see now her behaviour.

It is difficult to tell what is the best. It depends on the breeder what work he is doing in the first weeks. And what the new owner is able to do.

Christian
Interesting thoughts. Always not easy to determine the "best".
Having other adults dog to teach the pup is very nice, but there is also a drawback for young pup: when a pup is removed from his pack at 6 weeks, he is in the "crucial bonding period", and will bond in the new home with other dog, not you as human being (that's why it's also not recommended to get two pups the same time). So I would say 6 weeks in a new home with other adult dog to teach is not bad, but my opinion not the best.
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