Sarah Palin

[BWolf]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

What is even much worse: She wants to allow oil-companies the approache to nature reservations.

Mikael,
as Ina said, wolves hunting is just the peak of the iceberg.
They published this video "only" to get votes? Well done! I agree. A lot of US-Citizen will vote because of these FACTS? Good sign! What's wrong with this?

Stefano

[martiou07]

my opinion and my solution against this Sarah Palin
= ........ ........... .........

[btd]

Mikael: number of wolves is nothing, what is more important is number of wolves/surface of country. So what that in russia there are 80000 when russia is so big country?

And plane hunting? This isn't hunting, its slaughter for stupid, fat and lazy americans (hah, this looks like description of republicans :-> ).

I'm not against hunting - humans has deregulated nature and now have to control it, sometimes by killing, but it has to be done properly. Get on the ground, and give wolf or bear chance to bite fat, republican ass.

[Mikael]

Yes I agree, hunting from airplane and helicopter is not hunting, its pure killing !!! and as I told, I do not suport hunting of wolves...

But I do not think in Scandinavia that someone hunts wolves fore fun, thay do it to protect there sheeps and huntin grunds. The hunting grunds are small, and one wolf can easy scare all udder animals away.

But in Canada I know thay have hunting trips to hunt Timberwolf,
this is noting new, and I do not think vote for Obama will stop hunting in the US. But I hope he will win anyway...

Regards / M

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by Mikael

But I do not think in Scandinavia that someone hunts wolves fore fun, thay do it to protect there sheeps and huntin grunds. The hunting grunds are small, and one wolf can easy scare all udder animals away.

There are easy ways of protecting the life stock and many places where this is done easily. And there are many places and good researches that show that wolves aren´t bad for hunting grounds, the opposite is the case.
Wolf-hunters don´t want to know that and they don´t want to change anything, nothing else.
The last numbers I found about the population: less than 175 000 worldwide, about 40% in the countries of former UDSSR, that means only about/under 68 800.
You have to be extremely careful to use numbers of hunters or states that allow hunting they are almost always far too high.

Ina

[Juniorwolf]

Scandinavian gomerments is maybe the worst when it comes to wolves, in Sweden all wolves(about 10-13 wolves) are from same line and can therefor only make inbreeding in the future and the Swedish goverment do not allow new blood to enter sweden because of their strict rules of vaccination, so in time this population will die.... surly !

In Norway they still kill wolves, even that they have a small population(less than , so in time this will cause inbreeding too and the population will die.... surly !

In Denmark our ancestors killed all predatory animals bigger than foxes many years ago..... now foxes is being killed in big numbers too.

Sheeps and other prey for the wolves can easily be protected with various breeds of dogs.... there is NO excuse for killing wolves in Scandinavia !!!

Sorry but I don`t know much about wolves in Finland ?

Rolf

[Juniorwolf]

sorry ....Norway have less than 8 wild wolves according to WWF

Rolf

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by rolf

Scandinavian gomerments is maybe the worst when it comes to wolves, in Sweden all wolves(about 10-13 wolves) are from same line and can therefor only make inbreeding in the future and the Swedish goverment do not allow new blood to enter sweden because of their strict rules of vaccination, so in time this population will die.... surly !

In Norway they still kill wolves, even that they have a small population(less than , so in time this will cause inbreeding too and the population will die.... surly !

In Denmark our ancestors killed all predatory animals bigger than foxes many years ago..... now foxes is being killed in big numbers too.

Sheeps and other prey for the wolves can easily be protected with various breeds of dogs.... there is NO excuse for killing wolves in Scandinavia !!!

Sorry but I don`t know much about wolves in Finland ?

Rolf

In Sweden there are about 200 wolves and 15 litter was born 2005/2006.
Totaly 130 wolf puppys and alsow one in norway.

over 1´500´000 euro has been collected in sweden to protect the wolves in scandinavia, partley throug the project SCANULV.
I think alsow we have imported russian wolfblood ?

All farmers that lose a animal will get 100% compensensation, but the hunters will get 0 %, that might be a problem...

And nobody will get money to protect animals from wolves...yet

I think in Sweden we do much to save the wolf, but I agree more can be done.

Regards / Mikael

[elkr919]

Hold on BTD. I want to clear something up. I am a CZ owner in the US AND I am a republican AND I love wolves. I am just as angry with Palin's support of aerial hunting of wolves myself and that is why I will not be voting for that ticket (besides the many other factors I dont like). Honestly I find it disgusting. But to say all american republicans are quote: " stupid, fat and lazy americans (hah, this looks like description of republicans :-> )". Is a bit extreme and offensive. I am sure there are fat stupid lazy people who share the same views in every country. You cannot judge a whole group of people by the actions of a few. It is just ignorant.

I love wolves, wolfdogs and animals in general. I would shoot a person before I would hurt a animal because a person would generally deserve it before an animal would. I understand this is a hot issue especially among those of us who love these animals. I see it as nothing but wrong, but please keep comments like that to yourself.

[btd]

I love wolves, wolfdogs and animals in general. I would shoot a person before I would hurt a animal because a person would generally deserve it before an animal would. I understand this is a hot issue especially among those of us who love these animals.

I agree with that. And back to republicans: yes it sounds ignorant, but looking what republicans do: forcing creationism, being religious fundamentalists looking for war etc I feel little sorry.

I know that not everyone are the same, but majority makes the picture.

And I also don't like barack obama.