Tail

[furyos]

hi mirka we never say that .... it s not the biggest default in the breed but it 's not really nice and it 's shame when this position is like that ...give an opinion is not a scandal ..not?about this caracteristic is necessary talk about ...that'all ..best regards ... frank

[Mirkawolf]

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hi mirka we never say that .... it s not the biggest default in the breed but it 's not really nice and it 's shame when this position is like that ...give an opinion is not a scandal ..not?about this caracteristic is necessary talk about ...that'all ..best regards ... frank

It´s a shame? No it isn´t. This is a shame:


Dog scared because person is approaching? Shame!

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The same dog - what a horror, he is being measured!


On a dog show ... group of wolfdogs trying to avoid a stranger
touching them - only they have no place left to escape. What a shame and bad reputation for the breed!


And what to say about this unfortunate shy sack of bones?

Now you of course can say, that every one of us have different opinion on what is shame, when looking at wolfdogs. Well, this is how I see it.

Sorry for the white around the pics, I don´t have better program here at work to crop (and I wanted to cut out the breeders/owners from the pics).

I am affraid we are again off topic

[Mirkawolf]

The pic that did not show up in the previous post..



The same dog - what a horror, he is being measured!

[Navarre]

Mirka, I understand what you said, but i think that the pictures of bonitace that you put on don't say nothing: even dogs with good character (but not trained for this) in this situation can put the tail under the belly.

We saw this at the last bonitace in Italy : absolutely friendly and self confident dogs (especially females) in this new situation put the tail sometimes down. Don't forget that for many of these dogs the most similar situation that they lived was with...the scary veterinary !!!

[Mirkawolf]

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Mirka, I understand what you said, but i think that the pictures of bonitace that you put on don't say nothing: even dogs with good character (but not trained for this) in this situation can put the tail under the belly.
We saw this at the last bonitace in Italy : absolutely friendly and self confident dogs (especially females) in this new situation put the tail sometimes down. Don't forget that for many of these dogs the most similar situation that they lived was with...the scary veterinary !!!

I´d maybe agree with this, if I was not present on the bonitation and just saw the pictures. However, I was there and had a chance to observe this (and other dogs) for the whole time of the bonitation, not only when they were measured or even worse, character tested.
And this dog (and some others) were really absolutely scared out of their mind, if anyone would look at them, approach them or try to manipulate them.
I do not call such dogs friendly and confident, but shy and badly socialised.

If a dog is not socialised well and not confident, this will always show up, no matter what the situation is. And opposite, if a dog is self-confident and well socialised, it can handle well even unknown and stressful situations.

Therefore, I will keep my opinion, that shy and unsocialised dog is a shame of its breeder and owner, and creates bad reputation for the breed much more, than a dog with tail up this way or that way