Saarloos on 'Dogs Today' magazine

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by nanouk

Paul, still no reply, i do not oppose if you give me the information you have openly in the forum!

Marija, suzanne, sonja ,maybe claudia or corrie can help you ,all your friends surely some of these people can help you, you need info ask Mrs Keizer i know you make contact with her , she is breeder of your dog, you did get my private reply i get auto mail when you open it on your computor,,

[nanouk]

Originally Posted by pacino

Marija, suzanne, sonja ,maybe claudia or corrie can help you ,all your friends surely some of these people can help you, you need info ask Mrs Keizer i know you make contact with her , she is breeder of your dog, you did get my private reply i get auto mail when you open it on your computor,,

paul you wrote me:

hi i have read your post, please tell me the parents names of your de louba tar dog, i will then tell you if your dog was falsly registerd or if it the pedigreee itself is fraudulent, this is not a game this is very serious and your dog may be one of over 200 dogs under investagation at present, not by me but a breed club, if there is any thing wrong with the papers i will give you phone number and you can speak to someone who will verify the facts, if there is a fault you do realise that when this comes out you will not be able to show your dog again,, there are many people who will have this problem very soon, i hoppe you are not one of them, paul

I have not recieved ANY answer, have received other Personal messages however, you have my permission to copy your personal message (which i have not recieved ) in the forum, you offer me information about the pedigree of my dog.
are you such a teaser who is just in the forum and writing personal messages in order to make waves, but don't put your money where your mouth is?

I am confident about the pedigree of my dog, you tell it might be otherwise, very serious indeed, than come with facts, not empty assumptions and than referals!

[Wolfsirius]

"you will not be able to show your dog again,, there are many people who will have this problem very soon, i hoppe you are not one of them, paul "

Paul; TO SHOW DOG AGAIN?? I think, if things are like you said, showing dogs (or not showing anymore) is smallest problem then.

I think many people have same questions, like i have; Why you do all this now? If you knew before, why now? If you were there as all "illegals" has happened, why you did not do anything, or open your mouth then?

This is not the most important, what i wanna say to you.
BUT:
Please, remember, as you attack C. Keizer, you attack hole saarlos wolfhond as a breed. If you want to destroy C. Keizer, what will happen to Saarloos Wolfhonds? There is quite many SWH , where is "louba-tar" in pedigree. By attacking Keizer, you attack in fact against the breed, this case. I am quite sure, that must happened something really bad, (between you and C.K) as you will take this all "in daylight" now.

-and one question more, what is your benefit in this case?

-Suski

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by Wolfsirius

"you will not be able to show your dog again,, there are many people who will have this problem very soon, i hoppe you are not one of them, paul "

Paul; TO SHOW DOG AGAIN?? I think, if things are like you said, showing dogs (or not showing anymore) is smallest problem then.

I think many people have same questions, like i have; Why you do all this now? If you knew before, why now? If you were there as all "illegals" has happened, why you did not do anything, or open your mouth then?

This is not the most important, what i wanna say to you.
BUT:
Please, remember, as you attack C. Keizer, you attack hole saarlos wolfhond as a breed. If you want to destroy C. Keizer, what will happen to Saarloos Wolfhonds? There is quite many SWH , where is "louba-tar" in pedigree. By attacking Keizer, you attack in fact against the breed, this case. I am quite sure, that must happened something really bad, (between you and C.K) as you will take this all "in daylight" now.

-and one question more, what is your benefit in this case?

-Suski

you say i attack mrs Keizer, i attack hole saarloos wolfhound as breed, i have seen all of the saarloos at de louba tar kennels and lots more from breedings, so how many are true saarloos? the saarloos breed is in safe hands, oh yes there are lots of so called saarloos with de louba tar in pedigree because you see thats were lies all the problems, the breed suffers from lots of health problems that have arrisin over the years, the saarloos from france begin to look like another breed this has been noticed at shows by many and for many years now, i have photos of saarloos and registered as saaloos that look nothing like a ssarloos in any way at all, also seen by lots at shows,, nothing bad happend betwwen myself and mrs Keizer, it was a result of what i discoverd going on , i reported all i knew to the club and was asked to be patient as other investagations were going on, there are plenty of true bred saarloos and the breed is in no danger, as for myself my saarloos have never been bred from all are castrated and living in new family homes enjoying life,,, i hope maybe one day to own a pure bred saarloos, there is a problem in the saarloos breed but not all is responable to mrs Keizer , paul

[Wolfsirius]

Ok. Thank you for info, Paul.

-Suski

[nanouk]

Originally Posted by pacino

you say i attack mrs Keizer, i attack hole saarloos wolfhound as breed, i have seen all of the saarloos at de louba tar kennels and lots more from breedings, so how many are true saarloos? the saarloos breed is in safe hands, oh yes there are lots of so called saarloos with de louba tar in pedigree because you see thats were lies all the problems, the breed suffers from lots of health problems that have arrisin over the years, the saarloos from france begin to look like another breed this has been noticed at shows by many and for many years now, i have photos of saarloos and registered as saaloos that look nothing like a ssarloos in any way at all, also seen by lots at shows,, nothing bad happend betwwen myself and mrs Keizer, it was a result of what i discoverd going on , i reported all i knew to the club and was asked to be patient as other investagations were going on, there are plenty of true bred saarloos and the breed is in no danger, as for myself my saarloos have never been bred from all are castrated and living in new family homes enjoying life,,, i hope maybe one day to own a pure bred saarloos, there is a problem in the saarloos breed but not all is responable to mrs Keizer , paul

Boah Paul, such a long posting, and not a minute time to answer my Q, my q that has risen from your offer to give me more info about the pedigree of my SWH ?
Kinda sad!

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by nanouk

Boah Paul, such a long posting, and not a minute time to answer my Q, my q that has risen from your offer to give me more info about the pedigree of my SWH ?
Kinda sad!

hi i will not be posting anything about your pedigree for your or mrs Keizers benifit , i am more concerned with helping people who really dont know what they have as a so called saarloos, if there are any problems with the pedigree or the registration then you will know at same time as everyone else, it will then be made clear to whoever is concerned by the breed club and the FCI,, paul

[nanouk]

Originally Posted by pacino

hi i will not be posting anything about your pedigree for your or mrs Keizers benifit , i am more concerned with helping people who really dont know what they have as a so called saarloos, if there are any problems with the pedigree or the registration then you will know at same time as everyone else, it will then be made clear to whoever is concerned by the breed club and the FCI,, paul

What BS Paul, You offered info, info that i didn't ask you for!
Now you come with a lame excuse that it would benifit me to find out what you have to say? It would benifit Corrie?

Never heard sucha load of crap! (excuse the language)

I am fully aware of some rumours, but still 100% believe i own a Saarloos, not only in appaerance, but also in temperament, movement etc...
If you have facts that say otherwise Ii would take them very serious, and take actions accordingly!