Saarloos on 'Dogs Today' magazine

[nanouk]

Originally Posted by Wolfsirius

A bit OT, but i have a question; Paul, i have magazine "dogs today" september 2006, there is story of csv and swh written by Anneka Svenska. Can you tell me which dogs are in fotos, in magazine? There is foto of grey saarloos owned by you (in text said so) and csv owned by you , then is foto where you are with bigger pack,laying on the ground with wolfdogs and foto of 2 red saarloos. Are this pack yours, and these 2 red ones? If not, where is fotos taken, and which are dogs, dogs owned by you, and other dogs, if all is not yours? Just for interest.
Thank you. - Suski

Paul seems to choose to ignore your question, but is it possible for you to scan this article? or is there another way to aquire the article? Just would like to have it for my collection of information in magazines and newspapers on the SWH

[Wolfsirius]

I sent private message to you, just asked your email for article.

Suski

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by nanouk

Paul seems to choose to ignore your question, but is it possible for you to scan this article? or is there another way to aquire the article? Just would like to have it for my collection of information in magazines and newspapers on the SWH

hi i did reply to wolfsrius, my reply was the sarloos in one of the pics are dogs breed by mr Keizer, i stated that i was told these were not pure bred saarloos and i had to go to meeting in Holland to view evidence, after this i had to get appology put in magazine stating the dogs in the pic were not pure saarloos but cross bred dogs, so here is the answer to your question ,paul

[Wolfsirius]

Thank you , Paul.
Still, i am in interested names of dogs you are owned (cause swh written owned by you seems very very beautiful for me) i would like to know, which dog is it? Also, names for rest swh interest me very much, especially these 2 red ones. Was it proven that these dogs are not purebreed, cause i had heard many people spoken that ANY OF DOGS OUTSIDE breedclub Holland is not purebreed. They said that to many people.

-Suski

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by Wolfsirius

Thank you , Paul.
Still, i am in interested names of dogs you are owned (cause swh written owned by you seems very very beautiful for me) i would like to know, which dog is it? Also, names for rest swh interest me very much, especially these 2 red ones. Was it proven that these dogs are not purebreed, cause i had heard many people spoken that ANY OF DOGS OUTSIDE breedclub Holland is not purebreed. They said that to many people.

-Suski

hi suski, i know you are in contact with mrs Keizer, if you mail her the pics she will give you there pedigree names, i only know them by pet names witch of coarse will be of no use to you, i often give some dogs names i made up as i am not very good with names, its hard to remember all pedigree names but they will end with de louba tar, i know both were born in france at the kennels there mum is called zaza something,, as i said in other mails i do not go on hear say or rummours only facts, i do not know if dogs outside breed club are not pure bred, i do know the breed club dogs and i do know from shows in europe lots of dogs from various countries and breeders, do not look very like the saarloos from the club dogs, yes i remember the father was called johnny, mrs Keizer will know right away, tell her the litter that was born in the right side kennel block , zaza was bit sharp with me so Mrs Keizer had to bring them in to house, these are the two red dogs in photo,, regards paul

[nanouk]

Originally Posted by pacino

hi i did reply to wolfsrius, my reply was the sarloos in one of the pics are dogs breed by mr Keizer, i stated that i was told these were not pure bred saarloos and i had to go to meeting in Holland to view evidence, after this i had to get appology put in magazine stating the dogs in the pic were not pure saarloos but cross bred dogs, so here is the answer to your question ,paul

seems like you (or I) have a problem with the forum, cause i fail to see your reply to Suski..

Did you know that the NVSWH has been making similair accusations about all SWH not bred by them for years now, and recently they have been forced by the dutch kennel club to take all accusations from their website ? in stead they run a look alike website, at the moment the dogs displayed there are as far as i know, and i know most lookalikes presented , are not bred by ca keizer

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by nanouk

Paul seems to choose to ignore your question, but is it possible for you to scan this article? or is there another way to aquire the article? Just would like to have it for my collection of information in magazines and newspapers on the SWH

hi i sent you private email regarding your saarloos dog with info on it, you have not replied??? you can have all my magazine clips very soon, they will be printed in feb 2008, i will put full copy on my web site,paul

[nanouk]

Originally Posted by pacino

hi i sent you private email regarding your saarloos dog with info on it, you have not replied??? you can have all my magazine clips very soon, they will be printed in feb 2008, i will put full copy on my web site,paul

yes , i have received your message, initial one, and have replied my SWH is called Amacho Axel de Louba Tar , born 30-01-00 (winrik tanguy eskalupa * vita dolce de louba tar) I am curious to know what you might have to tell about the lineage of my dog! Have not received a reply sofar...

[nanouk]

Originally Posted by nanouk

yes , i have received your message, initial one, and have replied my SWH is called Amacho Axel de Louba Tar , born 30-01-00 (winrik tanguy eskalupa * vita dolce de louba tar) I am curious to know what you might have to tell about the lineage of my dog! Have not received a reply sofar...

Paul, still no reply, i do not oppose if you give me the information you have openly in the forum!

[solowolf]

Originally Posted by nanouk

Paul, still no reply, i do not oppose if you give me the information you have openly in the forum!

Marija, suzanne, sonja ,maybe claudia or corrie can help you ,all your friends surely some of these people can help you, you need info ask Mrs Keizer i know you make contact with her , she is breeder of your dog, you did get my private reply i get auto mail when you open it on your computor,,

[nanouk]

Originally Posted by pacino

Marija, suzanne, sonja ,maybe claudia or corrie can help you ,all your friends surely some of these people can help you, you need info ask Mrs Keizer i know you make contact with her , she is breeder of your dog, you did get my private reply i get auto mail when you open it on your computor,,

paul you wrote me:

hi i have read your post, please tell me the parents names of your de louba tar dog, i will then tell you if your dog was falsly registerd or if it the pedigreee itself is fraudulent, this is not a game this is very serious and your dog may be one of over 200 dogs under investagation at present, not by me but a breed club, if there is any thing wrong with the papers i will give you phone number and you can speak to someone who will verify the facts, if there is a fault you do realise that when this comes out you will not be able to show your dog again,, there are many people who will have this problem very soon, i hoppe you are not one of them, paul

I have not recieved ANY answer, have received other Personal messages however, you have my permission to copy your personal message (which i have not recieved ) in the forum, you offer me information about the pedigree of my dog.
are you such a teaser who is just in the forum and writing personal messages in order to make waves, but don't put your money where your mouth is?

I am confident about the pedigree of my dog, you tell it might be otherwise, very serious indeed, than come with facts, not empty assumptions and than referals!

[Wolfsirius]

"you will not be able to show your dog again,, there are many people who will have this problem very soon, i hoppe you are not one of them, paul "

Paul; TO SHOW DOG AGAIN?? I think, if things are like you said, showing dogs (or not showing anymore) is smallest problem then.

I think many people have same questions, like i have; Why you do all this now? If you knew before, why now? If you were there as all "illegals" has happened, why you did not do anything, or open your mouth then?

This is not the most important, what i wanna say to you.
BUT:
Please, remember, as you attack C. Keizer, you attack hole saarlos wolfhond as a breed. If you want to destroy C. Keizer, what will happen to Saarloos Wolfhonds? There is quite many SWH , where is "louba-tar" in pedigree. By attacking Keizer, you attack in fact against the breed, this case. I am quite sure, that must happened something really bad, (between you and C.K) as you will take this all "in daylight" now.

-and one question more, what is your benefit in this case?

-Suski