Oldest living CSW

[massimo]

We recently shared sorrow for the loss of Ali, the last of the Reolups.
He was 14 years old.

I was wondering who is the oldest living CSW??
I mean, I see that averagely CSWs last 12 years, 14 if they are lucky, but I heard from some breeders that they owned 19 years old females.

So, question is , who is the oldest CSW today?
who was the CSW that lived most?
Is there a repetition of old age in their line which keeps these dogs particularly healthy?

For humans it happens often to see families that live really long lives, I wonder if that can be detected also in CSWs.
massimo

[Hanka]

Maybe this female?
http://www.wolfdog.org/dbase/d/384
But of course, somewhere can be older dog......

[massimo]

Hanka, you mean to say that before he died Ali was the oldest?, or at least the oldest we know of??
anybody else have info?

[Hanka]

Massimo, absolutelly I don´t know. On my area I don´t know older dog than was my Ali, but........It can be somewhere, only we don´t know it.

[Nebulosa]

If the database is right Bega z Krotkovskeho dvora is going to complete 16 years old in the end of 2010.

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

She's not alive anymore, Paula.

Michael

[Navarre]

I remember Sarka told me a bitch of Monika lived much longer. I think she is Asta z Tondova (http://www.wolfdogs.cz/index.php/cho...asta-z-tondova), born 29. 3. 1986, dead 9.10. 2002, near 17 YEARS !

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

As far as I can remember Bruna http://www.wolfdog.org/dbase/d/879
got 17, I saw her with 16 she was still in pretty good condition though she didn´t live very comfortable. Her daughter Esta got 18 and something.
Tabury z Rosikova was put down with 15 because his owners didn´t want to let him outside in the winter with -20 degrees any longer, not out of a real health emergency situation.
His daughter Gerda z Rofa is in extremly good shape for her 12 years and 3 month without any medication or medical support, We hope she will live many further years.
Eda http://www.wolfdog.org/dbase/d/1142 was shown in Veteran Class with 14 years in astonishing good condition, I can´t remember how much longer she lived but I think about 2 years.

But I don´t know any living CSWs much older, Milo Ruskov dvor is likely to get 14 and older but you never know in this age.

Ina

[Heiko]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

... But I don´t know any living CSWs much older, Milo Ruskov dvor is likely to get 14 and older but you never know in this age.

Ina

http://www.wolfdog.org/dbase/d/1058

[massimo]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

She's not alive anymore, Paula.
Michael

ehm...you can't ALWAYS rely on the database...

[massimo]

So, at the moment we have some dogs living at 14 (Milo, Bluette, Borka) and some dogs who reached 18 (Esta), 17 (Asta and Bruna)....
Not much info I suppose...

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

She's not alive anymore, Paula.

Michael

Do you know when she died?

Originally Posted by massimo

ehm...you can't ALWAYS rely on the database...

Master of obvious o/


I guess would be interesting try to make an statistic for know in what age most of CzW dies, for what we can see now seems that they live pretty longer than most of the big sized breeds of the group 1.

I know about some breeds, like Bernese Mountain dog wich the low longevity is a huge problem.

[massimo]

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

I guess would be interesting try to make an statistic for know in what age most of CzW dies, for what we can see now seems that they live pretty longer than most of the big sized breeds of the group 1.

That was exactly what I was interested in, unfortunately data on birth is easy to get, data on death not, because you are not always obliged to declare the death of a dog, so it's hard to say.
Also I was interested in knowing if we could "identify" a longer living line amongst the others.
I mean, it's not so interesting for Breeders who use the dogs mostly when young but...for owners it is.
I can see my 8 years old male MUCH younger and healthier than my 7 years old female, for example.

[Nebulosa]

Longevity is very important for breeders as it's strictly related with health, short life points for weak health, for a working breed its even more important as short life means also earlier retirement.