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Old 08-01-2015, 20:16   #1
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All dogs from the kennel Crying wolf born since 2004 are marked as "MIXes". It is the result of a lack of authorization to conduct DNA testing of individual litters and dogs which tried to do not only do the owners of dogs from this kennel, but also the official clubs. Since the Hungarian Kennel Club does not control their breeders, and the owner of "Crying wolf" kennel (which crossed Saarloos and Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs - mixes are min litters S and R and their offsprings) refuses to cooperate (which shows the fear of detection of other crosses) I decided to introduce such drastic measures.

The way to remove the "MIX" is very easy - just show the dog's paternity leading to the dogs bred in Slovakia or Czech Republic. In this case the mother is a bitch from Slovakia, all you need to do is to show that the male listed in the pedigree of Murad is real father of this dog (and it is not one of the Crying Wolf mixes owners by the Crying Wolf kennel).

In this way, I already cleared of the charges following dogs and all offsprings: Yvain Crying Wolf and Gisotsu Crying Wolf.

I'm sorry about that, but we are dealing with the breeder-swindler. And, unfortunately, the puppies have to be regarded as the results of possible subsequent frauds made by this person.
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Old 12-01-2015, 22:14   #2
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All dogs from the kennel Crying wolf born since 2004 are marked as "MIXes". It is the result of a lack of authorization to conduct DNA testing of individual litters and dogs which tried to do not only do the owners of dogs from this kennel, but also the official clubs. Since the Hungarian Kennel Club does not control their breeders, and the owner of "Crying wolf" kennel (which crossed Saarloos and Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs - mixes are min litters S and R and their offsprings) refuses to cooperate (which shows the fear of detection of other crosses) I decided to introduce such drastic measures.

The way to remove the "MIX" is very easy - just show the dog's paternity leading to the dogs bred in Slovakia or Czech Republic. In this case the mother is a bitch from Slovakia, all you need to do is to show that the male listed in the pedigree of Murad is real father of this dog (and it is not one of the Crying Wolf mixes owners by the Crying Wolf kennel).

In this way, I already cleared of the charges following dogs and all offsprings: Yvain Crying Wolf and Gisotsu Crying Wolf.

I'm sorry about that, but we are dealing with the breeder-swindler. And, unfortunately, the puppies have to be regarded as the results of possible subsequent frauds made by this person.
your words are not credible when you keep checking Yvain with "(_?_)" after testing , headaches and dozens of emails to your checking follow him so.
You have the same credibility as my president of government.....
Explains and convinces me why I will spend my money to do some tests which wolfdog.org will clean his ass with them...
Explain, explain....
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Old 15-01-2015, 21:57   #3
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The pups from Yvain don't have a question mark , so I gues that Yvain has been accepted. Al other pups from dogs that are not correct due to wolfdog also keep the question mark . So this questionmark should be about the kennelname.
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Old 17-01-2015, 15:38   #4
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your words are not credible when you keep checking Yvain with "(_?_)" after testing , headaches and dozens of emails to your checking follow him so.
Yvain is marked only because I made the first part of the update of the database. And not all the changes have been applied. It will change in the next few days.
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Old 16-02-2015, 19:44   #5
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Dear Admin,

As for Murad Crying Wolf descendants the doubt is because of Saarlos, will you remove the (_?_) from my csv if I send locus-b test from Laboklin? As well as DNA profile by them.
As I am now going to ask for Dawrfism and Degenerative Myelopathy tests and DNA profile from Labolkin, I could use same blood samples for locus-b test and clear doubts about my csv.

Waiting for your soon reply,

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for my dog that was enough to have a yes for aproved for breeding but the ? Stayd in his kennelname.

my dog has now a no more for a different reason i removed him from the stud dog list myself.
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Dear Admin,

As for Murad Crying Wolf descendants the doubt is because of Saarlos, will you remove the (_?_) from my csv if I send locus-b test from Laboklin? As well as DNA profile by them.
As I am now going to ask for Dawrfism and Degenerative Myelopathy tests and DNA profile from Labolkin, I could use same blood samples for locus-b test and clear doubts about my csv.

Waiting for your soon reply,

Best Regards,

Elena.
only if you have a F1 from suspicious dogs you can used b locus test if this are next generation this test not help.
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Old 18-02-2015, 23:39   #8
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Murad has been 2 years after my dog at the crying wolf kennel, so i gues the B locus test would be ok to proof that he is not an descendent from a saarloos wolfdog. His parents are not crying wolf dogs.

Funny to see that his cal name is Harry , my dogs call name is Barry
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Old 27-02-2015, 16:22   #9
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Yvain is marked only because I made the first part of the update of the database. And not all the changes have been applied. It will change in the next few days.
Good afternoon ADMIN

After a few emails to the laboratory where the DNA profile Srdcerváč Amore Mio (GENOMIA SRO, Czech Rep.) And check that DNA profiles LABOKLIN are compatible with DNA profiles that takes GENOMIA as compliant the International Society of Animal Genetics (ISAG).
My question is:
Wolfdorg.org accepts the certificate from GENOMIA to identify Amore Mio as the father of Murad Crying Wolf? And wolfdorg.org erase the MIX of all descendants of Murad ??? Or not???
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My question is:
Wolfdorg.org accepts the certificate from GENOMIA to identify Amore Mio as the father of Murad Crying Wolf? And wolfdorg.org erase the MIX of all descendants of Murad ??? Or not???
Of course it will be removed. Murad is son of Czech dog - Amore mio - and Slovakian female - Arys. There are no doubts about Slovakian or Czech pedigrees.
It will be enought to show that Amore Mio is the father and the MIX word will disappear by Murad and all his offsprings
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Of course it will be removed. Murad is son of Czech dog - Amore mio - and Slovakian female - Arys. There are no doubts about Slovakian or Czech pedigrees.
It will be enought to show that Amore Mio is the father and the MIX word will disappear by Murad and all his offsprings
I will proceed to do the paternity test.
Thank you very much
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Old 08-05-2015, 12:23   #12
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Do we have any updates about Murad's paternity test?
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