Typical Czechoslovakian wolfdog by Ing. Karel Hartl

[z Peronówki]

So I think I uderstood it right. I just could not belive that a breeder can write something like it...

Originally Posted by Alissea

a básník tím chtěl říct co? že všichni dělají vše špatně? proč?

The translation is:
"What the poet had in mind? That all do it wrong? why?"

As Daiva wrote it already - the "poet" is the founder of this breed. This drawing was made by HARTL - you should respect it.
It is not just a picture but a very good projection of everything what is written in the breed standard.

Originally Posted by Alissea

že všichni dělají vše špatně? - That all do it wrong?

Who do you mean with ALL? Your friends? Czech breeders? Czech Club?

Most of MY friends try to keep the the breed standard -> they try to breed dogs similar to the one showed on the picture...

If your friends (or breeders you know) do it totally different way - it means they breed dogs which DO NOT resemble the animal on the picture and:
YES, they do everything wrong because they breed ATYPICAL Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs.

Originally Posted by Alissea

proč? - why?

You have the ask THEM why they are breeding not typical dogs. In my opinion it is because lack of basic knowledge of the breed standard and because they slander everything what Hartl was trying to teach the breeders...

[sdivokoukrvi]

Margo umíš česky, vy taky píšete u nás anglicky, já anglicky neumím

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by Alissea

Margo umíš česky, vy taky píšete u nás anglicky, já anglicky neumím

this is english forum or we mas writte in lithuanian polish and czech and others language, please used translator?

[sdivokoukrvi]

Originally Posted by wolfin

this is english forum or we mas writte in lithuanian polish and czech and others language, please used translator?

You know what's really sad? as you can everything. The Czech forum normally write English. But that you too have used the compiler, it will not. Update your information and not cooperate with breeders who sent you the information and the only thing you're doing, how all gossiping about everywhere. Because only you are all doing well. No one else. Only your dogs are the best. Only you have the right to this server. Perhaps listen to the majority and stop to use it.

[wolfin]

Originally Posted by Alissea

You know what's really sad? as you can everything. The Czech forum normally write English. But that you too have used the compiler, it will not. Update your information and not cooperate with breeders who sent you the information and the only thing you're doing, how all gossiping about everywhere. Because only you are all doing well. No one else. Only your dogs are the best. Only you have the right to this server. Perhaps listen to the majority and stop to use it.

oo very interesing - found a post when I say " the best dog are from Wolfin" I think not can found this.
p.s. foto post Margo not I, when why you say this, better speak with Hartl about breeding when you can make this I not and begin you and others work with his ideas

[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by Alissea

Update your information and not cooperate with breeders who sent you the information and the only thing you're doing, how all gossiping about everywhere.

I think you mistook Daiva with someone else. If you are looking for the biggest liars and goosip spreaders - get in touch with the new Czech breeding comittee. You will find them there...

Originally Posted by Alissea

Only your dogs are the best. Only you have the right to this server. Perhaps listen to the majority and stop to use it.

MAJORITY? I think you do not understand what is the GOAL of breeding of purebreed dogs. It is not to breed that same dogs as the majority because usualy there are tons of ignorants who breed dogs for money and who promote (only) their own dogs (of any reasons). In every breed "the majority" breeds average or poor quality dogs. So do not try to convince us to breed bad quality dogs only because other breeders do it....

The goal of breeding is to breed dogs which fulfill all this what is written in the breed standard. I have no idea why so many exactly Czech breeders and owners have such agressive reaction everytime I post words or pictures prepared by Hartl.....
Yes, I know there is a strong group of breeders in Czech Republic who will be happy if people would burn all the books written by Hartl so they would be able to promote their "Czech Shepherds" as the only perfect dogs. But we do not plan to make their aspirations to destroy this breed so easy...

[vila]

Would Karel Hartl approve? ...I'm just curious :P hehe

[mijke]

I am not an expert at all!

So if anyone just compare their dog with the sketch of Ing Karel Hartl, they maybe can find an answer for their questions