Breeding rights

*Satu · 10-02-2013, 19:07

And what happen then when next genetic illnes can found?
DM/DM dog can use but only N/N...

This breed have bigger problems than DM.... character!

jmvdwiel · 10-02-2013, 19:47

Be my guest to adopt a DM/DM dog and give him a not so nice short live in a wheelchair maybe , or would you like him/her to drag herself trough your house and let him get wounds on his legs??
I would rather not have a dog than a dog whith DM!

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Originally Posted by *Satu

And what happen then when next genetic illnes can found?
DM/DM dog can use but only N/N...

This breed have bigger problems than DM.... character!

*Satu · 10-02-2013, 21:54

I have had DM/DM dog!
If gene test says dog is DM/DM. Dog can die before they come ill....
is not written that the dog become ill even if the test result would be a bad

A dog should not be put in a wheelchair, but in any case the owner will let it to heaven.

all living objekt havge more than 200 genetic illnes not only one....

jefta · 11-02-2013, 01:19

I also don`t see the reasons for disqualification dm/dm dogs from breed where is so much important problems for example as Satu said- wrong character what is really hard to detect in future generation

jmvdwiel · 11-02-2013, 01:25

So you also wouldn't mind to have a dm/dm puppy from a litter you selected? If you cannot select on breeding new DM/DM dogs maybe the breed isn't word saving.

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Originally Posted by jefta

I also don`t see the reasons for disqualification dm/dm dogs from breed where is so much important problems for example as Satu said- wrong character what is really hard to detect in future generation

wolfin · 11-02-2013, 08:43

who speak about puppy with DM/DM - girl speak about this dog who are LIVE now and have DM/DM - they can go in breeding only with mating with NN dogs- and NOT imposible with this mating have DM/DM. Or you propose all dog who born before DM test and later when make this test and becam result DM./DM not breed? WHY? they are normal dog who can used easy in breeding only with one regulamin - mate with NN dogs.
DM is one from problems who have CSV and not the bigest in breed. this is ONLY one point in breeding but not most important

Shadowlands · 11-02-2013, 10:22

I think all responsible breeders are ensuring that no DM affected pups are born now. Before the test was available, sadly some were, but this doesn't necessarily rule these dogs out from breeding if they are special in other ways (character, interesting blood line etc). Like a carrier dog, they must be mated ONLY with dogs tested clear - this way, no DM affected puppies need ever be born again. If there is a puppy tested DM/DM these days, the breeder is not worth working with anyway, so you would not be in the situation of making a decision to have a DM puppy or not...

10-02-2013, 19:07	#1
*Satu Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 194	And what happen then when next genetic illnes can found? DM/DM dog can use but only N/N... This breed have bigger problems than DM.... character! __________________ www.csv.fi

10-02-2013, 21:54	#3
*Satu Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 194	I have had DM/DM dog! If gene test says dog is DM/DM. Dog can die before they come ill.... is not written that the dog become ill even if the test result would be a bad A dog should not be put in a wheelchair, but in any case the owner will let it to heaven. all living objekt havge more than 200 genetic illnes not only one.... __________________ www.csv.fi

11-02-2013, 01:19	#4
jefta Call Me Sexy Srdcervac Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wroclaw Posts: 1,233	I also don`t see the reasons for disqualification dm/dm dogs from breed where is so much important problems for example as Satu said- wrong character what is really hard to detect in future generation __________________

11-02-2013, 08:43	#6
wolfin Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Where the wolf lives Posts: 6,095	who speak about puppy with DM/DM - girl speak about this dog who are LIVE now and have DM/DM - they can go in breeding only with mating with NN dogs- and NOT imposible with this mating have DM/DM. Or you propose all dog who born before DM test and later when make this test and becam result DM./DM not breed? WHY? they are normal dog who can used easy in breeding only with one regulamin - mate with NN dogs. DM is one from problems who have CSV and not the bigest in breed. this is ONLY one point in breeding but not most important __________________

11-02-2013, 10:22	#7
Shadowlands Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vidin Posts: 391	I think all responsible breeders are ensuring that no DM affected pups are born now. Before the test was available, sadly some were, but this doesn't necessarily rule these dogs out from breeding if they are special in other ways (character, interesting blood line etc). Like a carrier dog, they must be mated ONLY with dogs tested clear - this way, no DM affected puppies need ever be born again. If there is a puppy tested DM/DM these days, the breeder is not worth working with anyway, so you would not be in the situation of making a decision to have a DM puppy or not...