where you keep a wolfdog during winter: outdoor or in house.

Tana · 21-01-2013, 22:13

yes avgrunn, do not be upset with me, but i think if they are still dogs and not lazy wolfcats, they like to run, jump, search ,dig, smell, they like to work and hunt birds, cats, play and bite with other dogs. A man who is in his pack can't bite like dogs when they play with each other, right?

) Is a kind a falsity to say ,if you sleep with a dog in the bed, that you are in the same pack with him. Maybe a human pack for your taste, but sure not for a wolfdog taste. Look at the documentary with that guy named wolf man .Inside house they can't behave like a dog, without being annoying or distructive so they are not really happy, we are happy. In house they cannot hide for example a bone under grass .Where to hide their precious bone in the house? Under carpet?

)She wolf Tana at 5 months is full of energy and joy, a really small and cute devil. I think a wolfdog enjoy winter like a husky.

avgrunn · 21-01-2013, 22:24

This is so amusing

Do you think my Uro is only sleeping all day? Believe me, we spend our time on training- sometimes something serious, somethimes something just for fun. We have passed some exams and this is just the beginning. So think something before you say it, just because my dog sleeps at home doesn't mean that he is doing only that. He spends his time outside as much as he wants, he plays with our other dogs, chases cats, hides his bones and meat, diggs them up, he does all what you dogs do, but when he wants to be with us we let him. You like your dogs only outside? Fine, your decision, but as Vila said your excuses are just weak. I have more than one dog at home, no one is pooping, nothing is destroyed. All the dogs know the rules and they obey them. Simple, I've put a lot of work and effort and it already has paid back.

Vila I completely agree with you

By the way what is with talking about the pack who said anything about it. But if you want to go into this, trust me Urobach will choose me over our other dogs.

vila · 21-01-2013, 22:28

Yes they go in their zoomie episodes in snow!

I also wanted to say that it doesn't mean are dogs are lazy cats and I'm ceratin that a lot of the dogs in that video are also allowed in the house and rest with people

I also know the wolf man - Shaun Ellis, I also read some of his books very closely. Maybe you misunderstood or you need to study his way more closely. He actually would disagree keeping the lives separate. You view your house as your den, but in wolf packs the den is only and I mean only for the breeding female who's about to have puppies, and the only other wolf that's allowed in is the "nanny" wolf, who brings food and looks over the puppies when mamma goes to feed and drink. The decision makers in a pack have no problem sleeping close to one another, but they can at any moment assert themselves as pack leaders. So if you're trying to mimic wolf man, you're actually doing it really wrong. Not to critisize, I'm just saying I read the books and stuff.

Maybe dog whisperer - Cesar Millan is closer to what you're thinking but also he doesn't mind dogs sleeping near to people as long as they are respectful and are invited. For people who haven't achieved total calm submission from a dog he strongly advises that the the dogs are not allowed on the bed, but can sleep beside the bed, so the dog learns boundries.

You need to understand that the Vlcak isn't as extreme as a wolf or a hybrid wolfdog. They can rest indoors and only rest! You can make that decision, but you have to be "fair play" - for example after a long walk or a trip when the dog is really tired you can let her in because you know she will probably fall asleep. But if you let her in full of energy you are setting her to fail.

vila · 21-01-2013, 22:41

Ps. I'm certain you will view your devil puppy different when she calms down, first she'll calm down after teething is done untill good start of puberty, then she'll be difficult again because of all the hormones and just simply the teenager stage. Than after 2 or more years when her character fully developes, you will view her at least a bit more like a dog

Tana · 21-01-2013, 23:34

I wrote very slow because i am not a native english speaker. I repeat myself, i am sure even when she will be big she will stay outside,with other 2 dogs. We trust her the protection of our small house, we not need her to be our puppet. We do not like hair in the house is not healthy, smell of dog in the bathroom, dog in the bed, dog at our table not even the childrens. I am sorry, for your mentality, but are in the world childrens who want to have their own bed, not shared with any kind of dog or cat and sleep better when they know their toys are safe.

)They can share with Tana from time to time some of them, eventually. Even with all of that, they love all our 3 dogs. I must go to sleep now, is late in Eastern Europe where Romania is, close to Black Sea btw, so i wish you all good night for now.

21-01-2013, 22:24	#2
avgrunn Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trójmiasto Posts: 1,756	This is so amusing Do you think my Uro is only sleeping all day? Believe me, we spend our time on training- sometimes something serious, somethimes something just for fun. We have passed some exams and this is just the beginning. So think something before you say it, just because my dog sleeps at home doesn't mean that he is doing only that. He spends his time outside as much as he wants, he plays with our other dogs, chases cats, hides his bones and meat, diggs them up, he does all what you dogs do, but when he wants to be with us we let him. You like your dogs only outside? Fine, your decision, but as Vila said your excuses are just weak. I have more than one dog at home, no one is pooping, nothing is destroyed. All the dogs know the rules and they obey them. Simple, I've put a lot of work and effort and it already has paid back. Vila I completely agree with you By the way what is with talking about the pack who said anything about it. But if you want to go into this, trust me Urobach will choose me over our other dogs. __________________ Ja & Urciowaty Last edited by avgrunn; 21-01-2013 at 22:27.

21-01-2013, 22:28	#3
vila Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 43	Yes they go in their zoomie episodes in snow! I also wanted to say that it doesn't mean are dogs are lazy cats and I'm ceratin that a lot of the dogs in that video are also allowed in the house and rest with people I also know the wolf man - Shaun Ellis, I also read some of his books very closely. Maybe you misunderstood or you need to study his way more closely. He actually would disagree keeping the lives separate. You view your house as your den, but in wolf packs the den is only and I mean only for the breeding female who's about to have puppies, and the only other wolf that's allowed in is the "nanny" wolf, who brings food and looks over the puppies when mamma goes to feed and drink. The decision makers in a pack have no problem sleeping close to one another, but they can at any moment assert themselves as pack leaders. So if you're trying to mimic wolf man, you're actually doing it really wrong. Not to critisize, I'm just saying I read the books and stuff. Maybe dog whisperer - Cesar Millan is closer to what you're thinking but also he doesn't mind dogs sleeping near to people as long as they are respectful and are invited. For people who haven't achieved total calm submission from a dog he strongly advises that the the dogs are not allowed on the bed, but can sleep beside the bed, so the dog learns boundries. You need to understand that the Vlcak isn't as extreme as a wolf or a hybrid wolfdog. They can rest indoors and only rest! You can make that decision, but you have to be "fair play" - for example after a long walk or a trip when the dog is really tired you can let her in because you know she will probably fall asleep. But if you let her in full of energy you are setting her to fail. Last edited by vila; 21-01-2013 at 22:35.

21-01-2013, 22:13	#1
Tana Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: city :Pitesti, country: Romania Posts: 23	yes avgrunn, do not be upset with me, but i think if they are still dogs and not lazy wolfcats, they like to run, jump, search ,dig, smell, they like to work and hunt birds, cats, play and bite with other dogs. A man who is in his pack can't bite like dogs when they play with each other, right? ) Is a kind a falsity to say ,if you sleep with a dog in the bed, that you are in the same pack with him. Maybe a human pack for your taste, but sure not for a wolfdog taste. Look at the documentary with that guy named wolf man .Inside house they can't behave like a dog, without being annoying or distructive so they are not really happy, we are happy. In house they cannot hide for example a bone under grass .Where to hide their precious bone in the house? Under carpet? )She wolf Tana at 5 months is full of energy and joy, a really small and cute devil. I think a wolfdog enjoy winter like a husky.

21-01-2013, 22:41	#4
vila Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 43	Ps. I'm certain you will view your devil puppy different when she calms down, first she'll calm down after teething is done untill good start of puberty, then she'll be difficult again because of all the hormones and just simply the teenager stage. Than after 2 or more years when her character fully developes, you will view her at least a bit more like a dog

21-01-2013, 23:34	#5
Tana Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: city :Pitesti, country: Romania Posts: 23	I wrote very slow because i am not a native english speaker. I repeat myself, i am sure even when she will be big she will stay outside,with other 2 dogs. We trust her the protection of our small house, we not need her to be our puppet. We do not like hair in the house is not healthy, smell of dog in the bathroom, dog in the bed, dog at our table not even the childrens. I am sorry, for your mentality, but are in the world childrens who want to have their own bed, not shared with any kind of dog or cat and sleep better when they know their toys are safe. )They can share with Tana from time to time some of them, eventually. Even with all of that, they love all our 3 dogs. I must go to sleep now, is late in Eastern Europe where Romania is, close to Black Sea btw, so i wish you all good night for now.