Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs-Australia

11-12-2012, 22:13

The fact you even needed to ask if they would be desexed shows complete ignorance. No responsible vet would desex a pup before 8 weeks. Even EAD which is normally between 8-12 weeks is a very rare practise in private clinics, and it should be taken with great caution.

I'm not breeding either, yet you ask questions. Stop using that as an excuse. You can see the pedigree of my dogs, lets see the pedigree of yours. Post the pedigree and the photos as an attachment if you have nothing to hide.

Also forget about the whole "they have csv foundation stock in them", CZECHOSLOCAKIAN SHEPHERDS ARE NOTHING BUT AN INCORRECT TERM FOR GERMAN SHEPHERDS. Like I said, there is no record of the military giving csv stock to breeders so they can breed them back to German Shepherds. So unless you can prove that, it looks like your lying.

You ask questions about my Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs? I'll ask questions about your German shepherd who you liked to call a wolfdog. If there was something not quite right going on here, you'd get me saying "I'm not telling you any information, it's private. I won't defame the breeder." But clearly I'm not trying to hide anything like you.

We have history with breeding, showing and animal welfare. Everything the breeder did was proper. However expirience tells me any breeder that's very private and demands owners to not tell any information about their dogs, is not a reputable breeder.

*The questions of yours that I've ignored, are stupid questions. You asked me what the PTS rate is currently for dogs in Australia, how is that relevant to me?

Ligerwolve2 · 11-12-2012, 22:35

No. You want to discuss my dog start a thread. Your redirection isnt going to work here anymore.

Frankly I dont care if you think Im lying.

Do your dogs have FCI pedigree certificate? Do the parents?

Ligerwolve2 · 11-12-2012, 22:38

Oh and I worked in the animal industry for many years. Vets absoultely will desex at 8 weeks.

Yes your are right in that I personally think its not good for large breeds to be desexed before 12 months. However its considered a personal view. There is plenty of arguements for and against.

So you my friend are incorrect. Vets will desex at 8 weeks. Many registered breeders choose to do this. Not me so I like to ask.

11-12-2012, 22:58

You lied on the DOL forums, you said there was a fair amount of doubt with both dogs. If you bothered to see the name of the the female, you'd she was Spirit of the Wolf. Which is FCI registered, and is one of Germany's most well known Czechoslovakian Wolfdog breeders. Are you accusing Spirit of the Wolf of mix breeding?

Secondly, there are only 2 dogs that aren't registered on the males pedigree (all dogs on the females are) but those 2 dogs have registered parents. So there is definitelely no issues of purity as far as the pedigree is concerned.

I'm still waiting for the photos and pedigree of your German Shepherd.

Ligerwolve2 · 12-12-2012, 00:26

No. You want to discuss my dog start a thread. Your redirection isnt going to work here anymore.

Frankly I dont care if you think Im lying.

Do your dogs have FCI pedigree certificate? Do the parents?

12-12-2012, 00:31

Haha, I see you've decided to ignore the fact that you openly lied. Claiming that Spirit of the Wolf are in doubt.

Why don't you ask some of the Czech or Slovak czw breeders what they think of your "Czechoslovakian Shepherd"?

If she ever existed, by the way you're acting (refusing to show photos and papers) suggests you made it all up.

You want to see registrations, check the wolfdog database, the fact you even need to ask that question, clearly shows you haven't even bothered search them on the database.

Ligerwolve2 · 12-12-2012, 01:10

Ive asked you a question.

No. You want to discuss my dog start a thread. Your redirection isnt going to work here anymore.

Frankly I dont care if you think Im lying.

Do your dogs have FCI pedigree certificate? Do the parents?

11-12-2012, 22:13	#1
Wolves Guest Posts: n/a	The fact you even needed to ask if they would be desexed shows complete ignorance. No responsible vet would desex a pup before 8 weeks. Even EAD which is normally between 8-12 weeks is a very rare practise in private clinics, and it should be taken with great caution. I'm not breeding either, yet you ask questions. Stop using that as an excuse. You can see the pedigree of my dogs, lets see the pedigree of yours. Post the pedigree and the photos as an attachment if you have nothing to hide. Also forget about the whole "they have csv foundation stock in them", CZECHOSLOCAKIAN SHEPHERDS ARE NOTHING BUT AN INCORRECT TERM FOR GERMAN SHEPHERDS. Like I said, there is no record of the military giving csv stock to breeders so they can breed them back to German Shepherds. So unless you can prove that, it looks like your lying. You ask questions about my Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs? I'll ask questions about your German shepherd who you liked to call a wolfdog. If there was something not quite right going on here, you'd get me saying "I'm not telling you any information, it's private. I won't defame the breeder." But clearly I'm not trying to hide anything like you. We have history with breeding, showing and animal welfare. Everything the breeder did was proper. However expirience tells me any breeder that's very private and demands owners to not tell any information about their dogs, is not a reputable breeder. The questions of yours that I've ignored, are stupid questions. You asked me what the PTS rate is currently for dogs in Australia, how is that relevant to me? Last edited by Wolves; 11-12-2012 at 22:38.*

12-12-2012, 00:31	#6
Wolves Guest Posts: n/a	Haha, I see you've decided to ignore the fact that you openly lied. Claiming that Spirit of the Wolf are in doubt. Why don't you ask some of the Czech or Slovak czw breeders what they think of your "Czechoslovakian Shepherd"? If she ever existed, by the way you're acting (refusing to show photos and papers) suggests you made it all up. You want to see registrations, check the wolfdog database, the fact you even need to ask that question, clearly shows you haven't even bothered search them on the database. Last edited by Wolves; 12-12-2012 at 00:35.

11-12-2012, 22:35	#2
Ligerwolve2 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 57	No. You want to discuss my dog start a thread. Your redirection isnt going to work here anymore. Frankly I dont care if you think Im lying. Do your dogs have FCI pedigree certificate? Do the parents?

11-12-2012, 22:38	#3
Ligerwolve2 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 57	Oh and I worked in the animal industry for many years. Vets absoultely will desex at 8 weeks. Yes your are right in that I personally think its not good for large breeds to be desexed before 12 months. However its considered a personal view. There is plenty of arguements for and against. So you my friend are incorrect. Vets will desex at 8 weeks. Many registered breeders choose to do this. Not me so I like to ask.

11-12-2012, 22:58	#4
Wolves Guest Posts: n/a	You lied on the DOL forums, you said there was a fair amount of doubt with both dogs. If you bothered to see the name of the the female, you'd she was Spirit of the Wolf. Which is FCI registered, and is one of Germany's most well known Czechoslovakian Wolfdog breeders. Are you accusing Spirit of the Wolf of mix breeding? Secondly, there are only 2 dogs that aren't registered on the males pedigree (all dogs on the females are) but those 2 dogs have registered parents. So there is definitelely no issues of purity as far as the pedigree is concerned. I'm still waiting for the photos and pedigree of your German Shepherd.

12-12-2012, 00:26	#5
Ligerwolve2 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 57	No. You want to discuss my dog start a thread. Your redirection isnt going to work here anymore. Frankly I dont care if you think Im lying. Do your dogs have FCI pedigree certificate? Do the parents?

12-12-2012, 01:10	#7
Ligerwolve2 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 57	Ive asked you a question. No. You want to discuss my dog start a thread. Your redirection isnt going to work here anymore. Frankly I dont care if you think Im lying. Do your dogs have FCI pedigree certificate? Do the parents?