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Antigo 10-03-2012, 16:08   #1
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You say the dog is ill, already affected (lameness, dragging it's hindlegs and so on) or is the dog just (DM/DM) tested?
Being (DM/DM) doesn't mean the dog will suffer from this disease necessarily...
In fact the amount of (DM/DM) dogs getting affected in the end is quite small and so far nobody really knows why some dogs get it and others not.
So if the dog is not ill get yourself informed and be careful with any sort of accusations.

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Antigo 10-03-2012, 20:01   #2
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I spent my last evenings reading the forum and I found plenty posts against this particular kennel. It's not my place to judge, maybe there's some truth involved, but in this case it's just an unfortunate situation. Sure, if we look at the pdf file showing DM tests, the name 'Crying Wolf' appeares a bit too often... the fact that this test wasn't available till recently is a perfectly good excuse, but from now on, it should be mandatory for all breeding dogs from certain breeds, it isn't that expensive, and it isn't that hard for any breeder to avoid producing affected puppies.

I saw a case recently...it's a terrible sight....the poor dog was barely able to move, he had to be carried everywhere, covered in his own poo most of the time (that's specific to DM)... The only thing he was able to fully control were his eyes, and that was enough for his owner to decide not to put him to sleep...

Of course, DM doesn't affect young dogs (Lord-the dog I was talking about-was almost 10 years old), if he makes his regular exercise daily, and lives in a healthy enviroment it might never be affected. Everywhere you read about it, it says that death comes when vital neural connexions are affected, but in reality if the dog cannot be supervised 24/7 all sorts of stupid accidents can happen, they simply cannot be avoided...

It's criminal from a professional breeder not to spend a few coins to make DM tests for all dogs (including old ones, to warn their offsprings' owners about possible problems). There's no excuse now, but things are still moving slow, very few dogs are DNA tested, and so it happens that you can't find a couple of breeding dogs in planned litters sections, both fully tested. Think about it, a new guy (like me) comes here to look for a puppy and sees these threads...of course next move is to look for a healthy dog rather than one coming from a good line...

How hard is to test your dogs for DM and dwarfism?
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Antigo 10-03-2012, 20:11   #3
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You say the dog is ill, already affected (lameness, dragging it's hindlegs and so on) or is the dog just (DM/DM) tested?
Being (DM/DM) doesn't mean the dog will suffer from this disease necessarily...
In fact the amount of (DM/DM) dogs getting affected in the end is quite small and so far nobody really knows why some dogs get it and others not.
So if the dog is not ill get yourself informed and be careful with any sort of accusations.

Michael


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And the buyer also have the responsibility to look up and ask for health results,,,

And try also to find out who the breeder is, talk to people or look at this forum...

Some CsV is not even pure, so talk to people that knows allot / ask the club´s if you are just a little unsertain...

Look for this test or results...

DNA = DM, Dwarf
X-ray = HD and ED
MH test or breed specific tests as Bonitation Test...

Very best regards / Mikael

PS, And do not look at the dog show results, they mean from little to nothing at all, DS.
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Antigo 10-03-2012, 23:17   #4
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Buidelwolf...you are obstinated too..I blame not no reply to the owner that is passing throught a bad moment with that news, a good breeder would talk and reply the owner...I not want to start a witch hunt against anybody, only explain a fact that really happend....an yes...I'm a wolfdog owner if not I wouldn't be here..why are you so affected because I explain that situation? And that the breeder does anything and no answer anything to the owner?
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Antigo 10-04-2012, 5:29   #5
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I agree and think the breeder should of course respond and help the owner at least with advice. It's the responsibility of a decent breeder even if it were not possible to screen for a problem at the time.
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Antigo 10-06-2012, 15:24   #6
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Edit molnar is an imposter and a liar. She still owes me pedigree for my dog.She doesnt reply in e-mails and the few times she does she is lying.she was realy typical and professional until she got the money.DO NOT make business with her.
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Antigo 10-06-2012, 17:25   #7
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Edit molnar is an imposter and a liar. She still owes me pedigree for my dog.She doesnt reply in e-mails and the few times she does she is lying.she was realy typical and professional until she got the money.DO NOT make business with her.
Send me the data's of the dogs. I'll help get you the pedigree. I heard that in the last six months there wasn't any wolfdogs pedigreed.

I want your answer in e-mail so I can forward it to the Hungarian Kennel Club.

I wrote about the Hungarian pedigree here in the forums, take a look at it.

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Antigo 10-10-2012, 20:32   #8
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In Spain there are also dogs from Crying Wolf are DM/DM
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