DM Testresults

Silvester · 25-10-2011, 17:45

Today I´ve got the result of test of my Cwd. from Laboklin:

Zeus Lupus Ibericus: - N / N

Best greetings to everyone here !

Uli alias Silvester from Germany

simo · 31-10-2011, 11:46

Ashanti N/N
Dream Olim Palus N/N

so all the litter "I Olim Palus" (Nouau Arimminum and Dream Olim Palus) are N/N ; and all the Litter "J Olim Palus" (Carr Maly Bysterec and Ashanti) are N/N.

michaelundinaeichhorn · 31-10-2011, 13:17

Hi all,

don't get me wrong, I'm really happy to read of all those negative test results in the last few months.
According to these good news we seem to have no problems at all.
But where are all the N/DM and DM/DM dogs which make a considerable number of the whole population.
We're talking of approximately 30-40 % of the population.
They seem to have disappeared...

Michael

simo · 31-10-2011, 17:11

I agree with you Michael. Some of my dogs are carriers as reported some time ago, with criterion choosing mates the risk deletes itself. These two results are important because all of their offspring (17 pups) are exempt from myelopathy. Clearly, carriers and affected (to a lesser percenutale fortunately) there are, I think it is important to shed light on new puppies free, to help anyone who wants to mate their choice with good sense.

michaelundinaeichhorn · 31-10-2011, 19:39

Hi Simona,

I didn't mean you in particular.
As I said, I'm happy for any dog and owner.
But you can see a certain tendency in the published results...

Ciao,
Michael

simo · 31-10-2011, 23:10

Hi Michael i understand what you say..

SARKA · 03-11-2011, 10:10

Arimminum Istar Ketty Pry N/DM
father Charon Seda Eminence ?
mother Ambra Vlci nadeje N/N

Arimminum Vega N/DM
father Cutt ?
mother Arimminum Istar Ketty Pry N/DM

Arimminum Zoe N/N
father Dak z Rosikova ?
mother Arimminum Lada ?

Arimminum Wolga N/N
father Quan Passo del lupo ?
mother Arimminum Odette N/N

Arimminum Sunrise N/N
father Arimminum Timber Wolf N/N
mother Arimminum Istar Ketty Pry N/DM

*Satu · 15-11-2011, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

Hi all,

don't get me wrong, I'm really happy to read of all those negative test results in the last few months.
According to these good news we seem to have no problems at all.
But where are all the N/DM and DM/DM dogs which make a considerable number of the whole population.
We're talking of approximately 30-40 % of the population.
They seem to have disappeared...

Michael

They have not disappeared, and a big part of the sick dogs, does not publish the results.

Also, a few N / N female to use N / DM males for fear of bad results.
Good bye genepol...

Silvester · 15-11-2011, 16:42

Originally posted by Satu:

"....and a big part of the sick dogs, does not publish the results."

Hmmmm- up to now I did not know that these dogs are themselves posting anything here ??

Must be VERY clever ones - I would immediately take all of them for breeding ! This intelligence of course is much more important than the DM- results, right?

Ok, seriously now again - Michael is right and Satu also ! It would be a big loss for the whole race if all ( or even only a lot of ! ) breeders now will ONLY breed with "N / N" dogs .

Just for the reasons Satu told: "Good bye genepol... "

That´s completely right!

Best greetings , Silvester

jmvdwiel · 15-11-2011, 22:18

I did search the comming litters and to my positive surprise breeders are also using the males that are cariers to their free females

SO

to those breeders who wants to have an healthy breed and use cariers.

greetings judith

André · 23-11-2011, 12:45

A simple question:
From what age the test can be made? For example, can it be made with 2 week puppies?

z Peronówki · 24-11-2011, 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

don't get me wrong, I'm really happy to read of all those negative test results in the last few months.
According to these good news we seem to have no problems at all.
But where are all the N/DM and DM/DM dogs which make a considerable number of the whole population.
We're talking of approximately 30-40 % of the population.
They seem to have disappeared...

It is right... Let"s be honest - cheating is usefull. Kennels which publish only good reasults and hide all ill dogs are considered by puppy buyers to be more "healthy" than kennels who publish all results... Sad but true.

The same is with ED, HD and dwarfism results. At the moment only in Czech Republic the club publish ALL hd-results which are made. In any other country cheating (hiding of the results) is still possible...

*Satu · 24-11-2011, 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by z Peronówki

It is right... Let"s be honest - cheating is usefull. Kennels which publish only good reasults and hide all ill dogs are considered by puppy buyers to be more "healthy" than kennels who publish all results... Sad but true.

The same is with ED, HD and dwarfism results. At the moment only in Czech Republic the club publish ALL hd-results which are made. In any other country cheating (hiding of the results) is still possible...

In fin database can tell true also There is all healty results.

z Peronówki · 24-11-2011, 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Satu

In fin database can tell true also There is all healty results.

Yes, you are right. In the official database of the French kennel club all results are visible too. I think the same is in Italy since some time, if I'm not wrong....

Nebulosa · 08-12-2011, 16:49

I just received the test results of my dogs, thank you very much Daniela

Mona Radov dvor N/N
Hero Oskar Dor N/N
Jezebeth z Peronowki N/DM
Arthas Taura Bera N/N
Iran Zemplínská oblast N/DM

31-10-2011, 11:46	#2
simo OLIM PALUS KENNEL Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Latina Posts: 1,167	dm Ashanti N/N Dream Olim Palus N/N so all the litter "I Olim Palus" (Nouau Arimminum and Dream Olim Palus) are N/N ; and all the Litter "J Olim Palus" (Carr Maly Bysterec and Ashanti) are N/N. __________________ Simona... & Olim Palus Kennel www.olimpalus.net

31-10-2011, 17:11	#4
simo OLIM PALUS KENNEL Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Latina Posts: 1,167	re I agree with you Michael. Some of my dogs are carriers as reported some time ago, with criterion choosing mates the risk deletes itself. These two results are important because all of their offspring (17 pups) are exempt from myelopathy. Clearly, carriers and affected (to a lesser percenutale fortunately) there are, I think it is important to shed light on new puppies free, to help anyone who wants to mate their choice with good sense. __________________ Simona... & Olim Palus Kennel www.olimpalus.net

31-10-2011, 23:10	#6
simo OLIM PALUS KENNEL Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Latina Posts: 1,167	re Hi Michael i understand what you say.. __________________ Simona... & Olim Palus Kennel www.olimpalus.net

03-11-2011, 10:10	#7
SARKA Arimminum Kennel Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rimini Posts: 1,230	Arimminum Istar Ketty Pry N/DM father Charon Seda Eminence ? mother Ambra Vlci nadeje N/N Arimminum Vega N/DM father Cutt ? mother Arimminum Istar Ketty Pry N/DM Arimminum Zoe N/N father Dak z Rosikova ? mother Arimminum Lada ? Arimminum Wolga N/N father Quan Passo del lupo ? mother Arimminum Odette N/N Arimminum Sunrise N/N father Arimminum Timber Wolf N/N mother Arimminum Istar Ketty Pry N/DM __________________ Sarka Matrasova www.lupocecoslovacco.it

08-12-2011, 16:49	#15
Nebulosa Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 1,334	I just received the test results of my dogs, thank you very much Daniela Mona Radov dvor N/N Hero Oskar Dor N/N Jezebeth z Peronowki N/DM Arthas Taura Bera N/N Iran Zemplínská oblast N/DM __________________

25-10-2011, 17:45	#1
Silvester Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 369	Today I´ve got the result of test of my Cwd. from Laboklin: Zeus Lupus Ibericus: - N / N Best greetings to everyone here ! Uli alias Silvester from Germany

31-10-2011, 13:17	#3
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Hi all, don't get me wrong, I'm really happy to read of all those negative test results in the last few months. According to these good news we seem to have no problems at all. But where are all the N/DM and DM/DM dogs which make a considerable number of the whole population. We're talking of approximately 30-40 % of the population. They seem to have disappeared... Michael

31-10-2011, 19:39	#5
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Hi Simona, I didn't mean you in particular. As I said, I'm happy for any dog and owner. But you can see a certain tendency in the published results... Ciao, Michael

15-11-2011, 16:42	#9
Silvester Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 369	Originally posted by Satu: "....and a big part of the sick dogs, does not publish the results." Hmmmm- up to now I did not know that these dogs are *themselves* posting anything here ?? Must be VERY clever ones - I would immediately take all of them for breeding ! This intelligence of course is much more important than the DM- results, right? Ok, seriously now again - Michael is right and Satu also ! It would be a big loss for the whole race if all ( or even only a lot of ! ) breeders now will ONLY breed with "N / N" dogs . Just for the reasons Satu told: "Good bye genepol... " That´s completely right! Best greetings , Silvester

15-11-2011, 22:18	#10
jmvdwiel Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,061	I did search the comming litters and to my positive surprise breeders are also using the males that are cariers to their free females SO to those breeders who wants to have an healthy breed and use cariers. greetings judith

23-11-2011, 12:45	#11
André Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 76	A simple question: From what age the test can be made? For example, can it be made with 2 week puppies?