British Kennel Club Recognition

[Nebulosa]

You have to take care with the rules for not turn too hard for the breeders chose different males, if you putas rule, for exemple, that all dogs used for breeding must have Elbows Displasy results or that they must be all N/N will be really hard for breeders to bring new blood and even for go to mate with different studs at other countries - something which will be REALLY needed, principally at the start of the breeding there -

Not only that, suppose you find an old dog from an very interesting line in your country, its an pure imported animal which the owner accepted to make the X rays, if there is as "rule" that the dog should have characer test and several dogshows it might make this owner give up of the idea and you will lost an very interesting stud.

I think you should put as rule for all dogs living in UK for breeding the need of Elbows and Hips displasy results, hips not higher than C, elbows not higher than 0-0 as elbows displasy is quite rare in the breed yet but extremely dangerous in an breed with such small genetic pool as CzW, as there are an small ammount of dogs with some degree of elbows displasy will be no problem to the breed itself make such rigorous selection.

Microchip is something easy and practical which I find crucial, the tatoo often used usualy get erased with time and then impossible to read.
Also is easier to erase an tatoo than took out microchip, I think microchip is safer for the dog and owner, identification is never too much.

[tupacs2legs]

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

You have to take care with the rules for not turn too hard for the breeders chose different males, if you putas rule, for exemple, that all dogs used for breeding must have Elbows Displasy results or that they must be all N/N will be really hard for breeders to bring new blood and even for go to mate with different studs at other countries - something which will be REALLY needed, principally at the start of the breeding there -

Not only that, suppose you find an old dog from an very interesting line in your country, its an pure imported animal which the owner accepted to make the X rays, if there is as "rule" that the dog should have characer test and several dogshows it can make this owner give up of the idea and you will lost an very interesting stud.

I think you should put as rule for all dogs living in UK for breeding the need of Elbows and Hips displasy results, hips not higher than C, elbows not higher than 0-0 as elbows displasy is quite rare in the breed yet but extremely dangerous in an breed with such small genetic pool as CzW, as there are an small ammount of dogs with some degree of elbows displasy will be no problem to the breed itself make such rigorous selection.

Microchip is something easy and practical which I find crucial, the tatoo often used usualy get erased with time and then impossible to read.
Also is easier to erase an tatoo than took out microchip, I think microchip is safer for the dog and owner, identification is never too much.

Thankyou very much for your imput

I agree with your points!
,when and if the breed is accepted 'showing' would partly take place as a character test imo as no dog with a bad one would be able to be shown and certainly shouldn't be placed

Also I prefer microchip,....getting ahead of myself here put all litters dm tested too as well as dna

[Nebulosa]

DNA profiles are something which will be really important to the breed itself soon, but mainly to UK, where we have several people breeding mixes and people finding it normal. Also it's not hard neither expensive to do.

I agree with the DM test, but you shouldn't take it too serious when we talk about selection as even the veterinary which did the tests recommend people to treat it as one common standard fault.
I really worry about some people reaction to the DM test results, it's great to try to select only free dogs, but it really shouldn't be put in first place. Also the gene SOD1, which is tested at DM test is easy to get rid of at the breeding, different of hips and principally of elbows displasy, for exemple.

[Tazer]

Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

Thankyou very much for your imput

I agree with your points!
,when and if the breed is accepted 'showing' would partly take place as a character test imo as no dog with a bad one would be able to be shown and certainly shouldn't be placed

Also I prefer microchip,....getting ahead of myself here put all litters dm tested too as well as dna

Agreed.


Taz

[Tazer]

Originally Posted by Nebulosa

You have to take care with the rules for not turn too hard for the breeders chose different males, if you putas rule, for exemple, that all dogs used for breeding must have Elbows Displasy results or that they must be all N/N will be really hard for breeders to bring new blood and even for go to mate with different studs at other countries - something which will be REALLY needed, principally at the start of the breeding there -

Not only that, suppose you find an old dog from an very interesting line in your country, its an pure imported animal which the owner accepted to make the X rays, if there is as "rule" that the dog should have characer test and several dogshows it might make this owner give up of the idea and you will lost an very interesting stud.

I think you should put as rule for all dogs living in UK for breeding the need of Elbows and Hips displasy results, hips not higher than C, elbows not higher than 0-0 as elbows displasy is quite rare in the breed yet but extremely dangerous in an breed with such small genetic pool as CzW, as there are an small ammount of dogs with some degree of elbows displasy will be no problem to the breed itself make such rigorous selection.

Microchip is something easy and practical which I find crucial, the tatoo often used usualy get erased with time and then impossible to read.
Also is easier to erase an tatoo than took out microchip, I think microchip is safer for the dog and owner, identification is never too much.

Those are fair points.

I was thinking that the character test could be for dogs in the uk, if someon wants to use a dog outside the uk, then its at their discretion.

I agree with regards to elbow testing and dm, I think using carriers providing 2 aren't mated with each other is fine, esp as the breed has a small gene pool.


Taz