British Kennel Club Recognition

happyfeet · 29-09-2011, 21:58

as a newbie here, in my opinion {which perhaps doesnt really count in the whole scheme of things} and as an owner of a registered dog as a family pet , I am not convinced by the other members of the inner circle to their true intentions. Who decides who to include or not to include its seems very underhanded . Reading it from the start its enough to put anyone off.

I agree it has to start somewhere but surely the 'inner circle' needs to show to others they are true and fair and equal? This is not whats being reflected!

yukidomari · 29-09-2011, 22:00

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Originally Posted by happyfeet

I agree it has to start somewhere but surely the 'inner circle' needs to show to others they are true and fair and equal? This is not whats being reflected!

I agree with you!

happyfeet · 29-09-2011, 22:04

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Originally Posted by yukidomari

I agree with you!

theres a first time for everything! my hearts in the right place but I find this 'inner circle' thingy a little un easy

Tassle · 29-09-2011, 22:21

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Originally Posted by happyfeet

theres a first time for everything! my hearts in the right place but I find this 'inner circle' thingy a little un easy

Maybe use the word committee then, as with every breed club, a chairperson, secretary etc - tis exactly the same thing isn't it?

Tassle · 29-09-2011, 22:26

Just a quick search on the Web came up with this, but this does not seem to be in relation to setting up a breed club, just standard rules that have to be adhered to *if* the KC get involved.
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/480

Possibly Hedeon could email his contact and ask what rules have to be adhered to if setting up a breed club?

....That is if you want to go down the KC route?

tupacs2legs · 29-09-2011, 22:28

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Originally Posted by Tassle

Just a quick search on the Web came up with this, but this does not seem to be in relation to setting up a breed club, just standard rules that have to be adhered to *if* the KC get involved.
http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/480

Possibly Hedeon could email his contact and ask what rules have to be adhered to if setting up a breed club?

....That is if you want to go down the KC route?

lol i think his 'contact'as u put it is caroline kisko...ohh she has sibes lol!

Tazer · 30-09-2011, 01:34

Going back to a point made on the code of ethics, the following are just a few things that came to mind, with regards to breeders. More will probably follo.

That dogs/bitches to be used for breeding have some kind of assessment of their character. Wether that be a specific temperament test created by the club or, that they have to prove thmselves in areas such as obedience, working trials etc.

That breeders have their dog/bitches as a minimum hip scored and dm tested.

That all puppies are dna profiled. I'm also wondering if puppies should have some kind of id e.g microchip before they go to their new homes.

That bitches are a minimum of 2 years old before their first litter. I'm tempted to say the same for studs to...thoughts anyone?

That no bitch will be used for breeding after their 7th birthday.

That no breeder will use their dog/bitch to create mixes.

Then of course there's the obvious stuff like providing food, water, shelter, exercise, vet care and taking back any of the dogs/pups they've bred at anytime, for any reason, if the owner can't/will no longer keep them.

Has that yahoo/fb group been created yet?

Taz

Tazer · 30-09-2011, 16:16

I also prefer Vlcak. Though what is the correct way to say it? Want to make sure I'm getting it right.

Though as I said in a previous post, I don't think they should be grouped with the herding breeds as they are in other countries.

Taz

tupacs2legs · 29-09-2011, 22:27

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Originally Posted by Tassle

Maybe use the word committee then, as with every breed club, a chairperson, secretary etc - tis exactly the same thing isn't it?

this is my confusion as to why there is a problem

Nebulosa · 29-09-2011, 22:03

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Originally Posted by HappyFeet

I agree it has to start somewhere but surely the 'inner circle' needs to show to others they are true and fair and equal? This is not whats being reflected!

Surely the "inner circle" will have to show not only for UK people how serious they are, but also convince the breeders about it.

As we can have an "inner circle" with new people interested in work, we can have an "inner circle" with people who only wants new blood for their mixes.

30-09-2011, 01:34	#7
Tazer Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 77	Going back to a point made on the code of ethics, the following are just a few things that came to mind, with regards to breeders. More will probably follo. That dogs/bitches to be used for breeding have some kind of assessment of their character. Wether that be a specific temperament test created by the club or, that they have to prove thmselves in areas such as obedience, working trials etc. That breeders have their dog/bitches as a minimum hip scored and dm tested. That all puppies are dna profiled. I'm also wondering if puppies should have some kind of id e.g microchip before they go to their new homes. That bitches are a minimum of 2 years old before their first litter. I'm tempted to say the same for studs to...thoughts anyone? That no bitch will be used for breeding after their 7th birthday. That no breeder will use their dog/bitch to create mixes. Then of course there's the obvious stuff like providing food, water, shelter, exercise, vet care and taking back any of the dogs/pups they've bred at anytime, for any reason, if the owner can't/will no longer keep them. Has that yahoo/fb group been created yet? Taz __________________ Never argue with idiots. they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

30-09-2011, 16:16	#8
Tazer Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 77	I also prefer Vlcak. Though what is the correct way to say it? Want to make sure I'm getting it right. Though as I said in a previous post, I don't think they should be grouped with the herding breeds as they are in other countries. Taz __________________ Never argue with idiots. they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

29-09-2011, 21:58	#1
happyfeet Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: on a farm Posts: 78	as a newbie here, in my opinion {which perhaps doesnt really count in the whole scheme of things} and as an owner of a registered dog as a family pet , I am not convinced by the other members of the inner circle to their true intentions. Who decides who to include or not to include its seems very underhanded . Reading it from the start its enough to put anyone off. I agree it has to start somewhere but surely the 'inner circle' needs to show to others they are true and fair and equal? This is not whats being reflected!

29-09-2011, 22:26	#5
Tassle Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cornwall Posts: 137	Just a quick search on the Web came up with this, but this does not seem to be in relation to setting up a breed club, just standard rules that have to be adhered to if the KC get involved. http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/480 Possibly Hedeon could email his contact and ask what rules have to be adhered to if setting up a breed club? ....That is if you want to go down the KC route?