British Kennel Club Recognition

Tassle · 26-09-2011, 10:46

I agree that things need to be done sooner rather than later.

Maybe a core group of people who own a pure could get together and throw some idea around, including how to deal with the dogs already here (DNA profiling ect)
Maybe draft some correspondence to people already producing and who also own pure, stating the intentions of setting up a breed club, what specifications would be put in place for joining and a Code of ethics.

Due to how difficult it is for people to meet up, possibly a Yahoo group (private) could be set up to throw emails about, then when you have something down that everyone agrees with, things can be sent to the relevant parties and possibly meet from there?

I Am not sure how it works with breed clubs, but I think (under the law) you have to have 6 people to form a committee? (Or is that just if you have paying members?)

I guess the alternative is contacting DEFRA and the KC and finding out what was in place? Or the people who had set it up with the KC in the first place?

pixie · 28-09-2011, 19:13

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Originally Posted by Tassle

I agree that things need to be done sooner rather than later.

Maybe a core group of people who own a pure could get together and throw some idea around, including how to deal with the dogs already here (DNA profiling ect)
Maybe draft some correspondence to people already producing and who also own pure, stating the intentions of setting up a breed club, what specifications would be put in place for joining and a Code of ethics.

Due to how difficult it is for people to meet up, possibly a Yahoo group (private) could be set up to throw emails about, then when you have something down that everyone agrees with, things can be sent to the relevant parties and possibly meet from there?

I Am not sure how it works with breed clubs, but I think (under the law) you have to have 6 people to form a committee? (Or is that just if you have paying members?)

I guess the alternative is contacting DEFRA and the KC and finding out what was in place? Or the people who had set it up with the KC in the first place?

whatever way we need to do it soon

tupacs2legs · 28-09-2011, 19:33

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Originally Posted by pixie

whatever way we need to do it soon

well really,we need to wait for a reply to hedeons email to the kc.... will know where we stand and a bit more of what needs to be done.(mind u they never answered me a year ago

)

hedeon · 28-09-2011, 19:51

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Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

well really,we need to wait for a reply to hedeons email to the kc.... will know where we stand and a bit more of what needs to be done.(mind u they never answered me a year ago

)

Well, I have received a reply, a bit strange... According to KC, CSV wasn't registered with KC before. Or in 2002. Any way I will quote evertyhing

My email

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Hello Caroline,

hope you are all right.
Thank you for your reply regarding breed recognition, but yet another question comes to my mind. How does it look like in situation where Czechoslovakian Wolfdog (CSV) was originally recognized by Kennel Club in 2002, but was removed from recognized breeds list in 2003 when DEFRA given the breed the status of 'Dangerous Wild Animal'. DEFRA revised their decision in 2008 removing CSV from 'Dangerous Wild Animal' act as " any dog 3 or more generations removed from pure wolf now no longer comes under the Dangerous Wild Animals act and therefore no longer needs a special licence to keep", but CSV have never come back on Kennel Club list. Does in this case whole process of breed recognition has to happen all over again?

And her reply:

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Thank you for your further email. It appears that you have been misinformed, as the Kennel Club did not recognize the breed in 2002.

We hope that this clarifies the situation for you.

Yours sincerely
Caroline Hallett
Registered Societies Manager

Is someone not telling the truth?

pixie · 28-09-2011, 19:52

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Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

well really,we need to wait for a reply to hedeons email to the kc.... will know where we stand and a bit more of what needs to be done.(mind u they never answered me a year ago

)

that is the problem, if we can get a group together and forward the names of the dogs with pedigrees to he kennel club, and start to make noises so they know we are not going away they may possibly answer. I doubt it but we have to try, I just believe less people will mix if we are KC registered, as then potential new owners wont be looking at 98% csv 2% whatever, because they will want the KC reistration papers

tupacs2legs · 28-09-2011, 20:00

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Originally Posted by hedeon

Well, I have received a reply, a bit strange... According to KC, CSV wasn't registered with KC before. Or in 2002. Any way I will quote evertyhing

My email

And her reply:

Is someone not telling the truth?

now why wouldnt that surprise me

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Originally Posted by pixie

that is the problem, if we can get a group together and forward the names of the dogs with pedigrees to he kennel club, and start to make noises so they know we are not going away they may possibly answer. I doubt it but we have to try, I just believe less people will mix if we are KC registered, as then potential new owners wont be looking at 98% csv 2% whatever, because they will want the KC reistration papers

i do not think it will stop them being mixed,i dont think it would stop them being bred without papers either,you only have to look at the wolf-alikes and the designer-breed stuff going on to see that.

but all the same wont stop us trying...eh?

pixie · 29-09-2011, 00:35

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Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

now why wouldnt that surprise me

i do not think it will stop them being mixed,i dont think it would stop them being bred without papers either,you only have to look at the wolf-alikes and the designer-breed stuff going on to see that.

but all the same wont stop us trying...eh?

I agree about not stoping mixing, but the demand might fall when there are KC registered dogs and no it wont stop us, this march for recognition has started

hedeon · 29-09-2011, 00:49

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Originally Posted by pixie

I agree about not stoping mixing, but the demand might fall when there are KC registered dogs and no it wont stop us, this march for recognition has started

Demand will fall also when we start to "advertise" European breeders, at least till normal breeding starts here.

26-09-2011, 10:46	#1
Tassle Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cornwall Posts: 137	I agree that things need to be done sooner rather than later. Maybe a core group of people who own a pure could get together and throw some idea around, including how to deal with the dogs already here (DNA profiling ect) Maybe draft some correspondence to people already producing and who also own pure, stating the intentions of setting up a breed club, what specifications would be put in place for joining and a Code of ethics. Due to how difficult it is for people to meet up, possibly a Yahoo group (private) could be set up to throw emails about, then when you have something down that everyone agrees with, things can be sent to the relevant parties and possibly meet from there? I Am not sure how it works with breed clubs, but I think (under the law) you have to have 6 people to form a committee? (Or is that just if you have paying members?) I guess the alternative is contacting DEFRA and the KC and finding out what was in place? Or the people who had set it up with the KC in the first place?