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Old 21-09-2011, 14:33   #1
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[quote=Rona;405213]I'm sorry but I think you underestimate the HUGE mental difference between two breeding cultures: the FCI and... I don't know how to call it... British (?).
Maybe i dont understand it but we want to start afresh and getting recognition in this country is my priority
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Old 21-09-2011, 14:40   #2
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I'm sorry but I think you underestimate the HUGE mental difference between two breeding cultures: the FCI and... I don't know how to call it... British (?).
Maybe i dont understand it but we want to start afresh and getting recognition in this country is my priority
HERE HERE!!!
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Old 21-09-2011, 14:46   #3
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I would welcome that and would like to help in any way.
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Old 21-09-2011, 15:53   #4
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I'm sorry but I think you underestimate the HUGE mental difference between two breeding cultures: the FCI and... I don't know how to call it... British (?).
Maybe i dont understand it but we want to start afresh and getting recognition in this country is my priority
That's the problem, that you don't.

Which reliable and solid breeder breeding "quality" pups could trust somebody whom he perceives a "pup manufacturer" only because the latter says: "I bred mixes last month, but from now onward I'll breed only pure CSV..." You forget that pure CSVs are very smart and stupid people just do not breed them

People clearly see the true motivation of the "converts": pure vlcaks' market will probably be growing and for mixes shrinking... Why should anybody purchase a 1/2 vs 1/3 vs 1/4 hybrid/mix (yes, I saw such a puppy being offered in one of the British kennels ) for over a 1000 GBP if he may get a pure dog with FCI pedigree, from health tested parents, good HD record and predictable character for half the price?

I think and it's not only my impression, the above discussion has little to do with breeding. More with a struggle for market share. Well, I'm not against market mechanisms in general, but even in business trust matters.
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Old 21-09-2011, 16:33   #5
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I understand that trust matters and maybe some people will join us purely on a money making scheme, but we have to start somewhere, which is why I originally said lets start a club, then visit some European shows to build up trust. but if European breeders dont help us we cant catch up. I read this forum and see that some european breeders breed just for money and use mixes, and they have all the help of Europe behind them, yes I know some British breeders will still do this even try and trick European breeders into selling them dogs. This is not a perfect world but some of us want to try and promote the breed for what we consider the right reasons, all I am asking is give us a chance to prove it.
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I read this forum and see that some european breeders breed just for money and use mixes, and they have all the help of Europe behind them,
They don't have the backing and support of reputable breeders once it is shown that they are using mixes. Just look at the problems Crying Wolf has created for herself and for the breed - I don't see a lot of support for her there.

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Old 21-09-2011, 17:11   #7
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Hi I was'nt saying they were helped to cross-breed just that they can get hold of the CSV's easier than us in Britain, but still do it, so even if we start afresh people will still crossbreed, I mean look how many mongrels there are in the world. So i apologise for not making it clearer what I meant
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