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So we agree on one thing. 'Happyfeet' about encouraging understanding of the breed.
....Oh so now my Tupac is a cross is he...how convinient ![]() And where have I ever said I would breed him? Last edited by tupacs2legs; 11-09-2011 at 14:59. |
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I find it very sad and cannot understand why fellow csv lovers are attacking me? For what? For loving the breed and loving my dog?surely we should unite?
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Let me see, let me see... no paragraphs and tons of (,,,,) or (....) , oh, I was so happy you were being able to avoid shaking your fingers at these keys that I tried to ignores the warn of Yukidomari about your possible new account.
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Acting like they do, the last thing you can call them is "CzW lovers".
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Tupac is not a MUTT - only his mother and himself are non-FCI and this is simply because the UK Kennel Club do not yet recognise the breed; as soon as they do, he will be registered - he is a CsV, pure and simple. We should try to see round the cross breeders in the UK and recognise that there are some (albeit only a few) real CsV's born in the country. At no point has Tupac's owner said she will breed (in fact has expressly told me she does not wish to), so please get your facts straight before launching an attack.
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This is exactly what I hope for. I even contacted KC to find out what is needed to get CSV recognized, but it looks more complicated and much more people have to be involved. |
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Well, in the end we completely changed the topic from new importing rules in UK to UK breeding, old UK breeders and some histories related, I will work on it soon.
But I want to let clear here somethings, the breed in UK had a wrong start, unfortunatelly real CzW lovers trusted in the wrong person at UK, and after years thinking that was all right the truth starts to pop out, we had several fights and several unreplied questions. In every country we can meet good and bad breeders and people, we only were unlucky enough to have as our first contact an bad exemple in UK, it's quite common to happen in CzW breed, it was the same in several countries and it didn't prevented people interested in move on to work and change the situation of the breed in their countries. Im sure that if you want to change the situation of the breed in your country, and is willing to do it in way to help the breed with a really serious work, several people will be happy in help you in all possibles ways, after all what most lack in all breeds are serious breeders.
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I was led to believe that there were a group of people who had organised and got the paperwork sorted to submit to the KC - however - I was told this by someone who, after swearing she was not intending to cross-breed her CsV, went ahead and did just that! So I doubt the validity of what she says now...
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2. Tupacs2leg's attitude towards the breed here, for example wanting them to be bred pure and to be established as a breed in their own right, was what I was refering to with the remark I made. If you had bothered to stop and think that the comment had more meaning than the one you assigned to it, you would've understood that. 3. She knows what I think of her boys breeder infact, there're probably few people who've got me on the subject who don't understand what I think of it. 4. I absolutely agree with you ref education and understanding of the breed being most needed here and yes, not all owners want to breed thankfully. Its just most unfortunate that the one's who do, seem to want to breed them with what evers easiest to get hold of. Taz
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I saw an ad earlier today. The sire was a pure csv apparently, the dam was a csv x northern inuit.
Males were 750 quid The female was...1000 quid. Absolute madness. Taz
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Yes, it's really good to see that they know the history of the breed that they are bastardising... If it is the one I think you mean, he does not even know who the dam of one of his breeding bitches is - class breeder ![]() |
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Wow you have taken a great deal of time to edit my quote! I asked a question to the whole forum, I have not attacked you in anyway, you stated in other posts you had 'crossed dogs ' and other members also have these crossed mixed look a likes with your dog coming from what I would class as a puppy farm that breeds 'crossed' dogs and now crossed czech with timberwolfs would it not concern you to your dogs history, because it would me? Many of the forum members over and over keep saying that you should breed, I didnt say you had ? I think you can read whatever you like into my posting and make more from what you see! This seems to feed the forum. I think that it would be irresponsible to encourage breeding these dogs without KC reg in the UK {my view} Would I trust anyone to breed these dogs in the UK...NO I WOULDNT! until and its a long until KC registration is give!....IT WILL BE A LONG LONG WAIT!! I had no idea this forum excisted till I met a person on the tube who mentioned her friends dog and then got chatting... Seems to me that a few of you have a bee in your bonnet about the UK and to be fair in part I agree. Forum posts are each persons individual perception,ideas and thoughts and we are all free to take part in them, whether you decide to like a comment or dislike one, read extra into them or change words to make them sound different is up to you! |
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![]() From saying: "In my opinion you'd make a good breeder" or "I'd buy a pup from you, because I feel I could trust you", to actual breeding is a loooong way. ![]() I hope I've explained this misunderstanding clearly enough. ![]() |
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