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Old 26-06-2011, 11:19   #1
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It seems that the French pedigrees are at the moment only a useless piece of paper which guaranty NOTHING. They do not even keep the the BASIC FCI rules about breeding pedigree dogs.

Till the case will be solved please DO NOT BUY ANY PUPPIES FROM FRANCE

Be sure ADMIN that as PROFESIONAL BREEDER, even i am not in your target, here in France, DEFAMATION facts are punished by law.

I must inform you that all words you have written in this way are already registered by usher (because i am so used of WD demating practices)...

... and in case my notoriety is attacked by your acts, you will be punished for that (WD forum... then you admin).

I highly recommend you to take out yours defamating words, and make a DENIAL which will not engaged all French breeders.

Even that, if there is a real problem as you mentioned, be sure breeders which respect the rules would be totally opened to give help to FCI.
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Old 26-06-2011, 12:41   #2
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Be sure ADMIN that as PROFESIONAL BREEDER, even i am not in your target, here in France, DEFAMATION facts are punished by law.

I must inform you that all words you have written in this way are already registered by usher (because i am so used of WD demating practices)...

... and in case my notoriety is attacked by your acts, you will be punished for that (WD forum... then you admin).

I highly recommend you to take out yours defamating words, and make a DENIAL which will not engaged all French breeders.
Yes, but as it is more a fact that France have ALLOT of false CsV pedigree´s it is kind of useles to try to get the Admin to not talk

Instead it would be nice if you put your energi to try to get the CsV club of France to act on it, to stop the mixbreeding before it is to late...

If you want to act by law, do it in France by report the MIX breeders to do fraud by selling puppy´s whit false FCI pedigree´s...

Best regards / Mikael
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Old 26-06-2011, 12:50   #3
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Yes, but as it is more a fact that France have ALLOT of false CsV pedigree´s it is kind of useles to try to get the Admin to not talk

Instead it would be nice if you put your energi to try to get the CsV club of France to act on it, to stop the mixbreeding before it is to late...

If you want to act by law, do it in France by report the MIX breeders to do fraud by selling puppy´s whit false FCI pedigree´s...

Best regards / Mikael
Intervention et remarques parfaitement stupides et dénués d’intérêt ...

Il ne faut pas, une fois de plus tout mélanger, et voir le problème du petit bout de la lorgnette ...

Il est possible que certains éleveurs soient "coupables" de ce que vous leur reprochez. Cela n'enlève en rien la culpabilité de l'Admin dans ses agissements et ses propos.

Il utilise des méthodes de voyou qui ne sont en rien excusables.

Le fond du problème (mix, pedigrees...) n'est pas ce que je remets en question. Je déteste les dictateurs de tout ordre, les petits chefs qui se sentent pousser des c...... et usent d'un pseudo pouvoir. Et l'admin répond parfaitement à tous ces critères.
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Old 26-06-2011, 13:03   #4
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Intervention et remarques parfaitement stupides et dénués d’intérêt ...

Il ne faut pas, une fois de plus tout mélanger, et voir le problème du petit bout de la lorgnette ...

Il est possible que certains éleveurs soient "coupables" de ce que vous leur reprochez. Cela n'enlève en rien la culpabilité de l'Admin dans ses agissements et ses propos.

Il utilise des méthodes de voyou qui ne sont en rien excusables.

Le fond du problème (mix, pedigrees...) n'est pas ce que je remets en question. Je déteste les dictateurs de tout ordre, les petits chefs qui se sentent pousser des c...... et usent d'un pseudo pouvoir. Et l'admin répond parfaitement à tous ces critères.
Sorry, I do not speak French and will therefore not replay...

PS, no one here will understand what you try to say and Google translator do not really work that good , DS.
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Old 26-06-2011, 13:18   #5
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Sorry, I do not speak French and will therefore not replay...

PS, no one here will understand what you try to say and Google translator do not really work that good , DS.

Really too easy, indeed

Are french members lazy less than english members ??? Maybe they're are more accodomating, aren't they ??

Punaise c'est fou! Y a un traducteur anglais/français mais les anglophones ne trouvent pas de traducteur français / anglais ... C'est complètement fou cette histoire!
Et après on dira les français méprisants ...
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Old 26-06-2011, 15:08   #6
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Intervention et remarques parfaitement stupides et dénués d’intérêt ...

Il ne faut pas, une fois de plus tout mélanger, et voir le problème du petit bout de la lorgnette ...

Il est possible que certains éleveurs soient "coupables" de ce que vous leur reprochez. Cela n'enlève en rien la culpabilité de l'Admin dans ses agissements et ses propos.

Il utilise des méthodes de voyou qui ne sont en rien excusables.

Le fond du problème (mix, pedigrees...) n'est pas ce que je remets en question. Je déteste les dictateurs de tout ordre, les petits chefs qui se sentent pousser des c...... et usent d'un pseudo pouvoir. Et l'admin répond parfaitement à tous ces critères.
Sorry, but I'm not Admin and do not write in English on the French forum. That's why I'm not going to respond.
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Old 26-06-2011, 17:45   #7
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Default We are in French forum now ??

Sorry to all French people here - but would you please be so kind posting in

....................English ...............

here ?

This is without any doubt the English ,not the French forum !

I´don´t write it for me because I speak English and French but it´s not very polite to all users who are not able to understand French language.

And this is completely impossible:

Originally posted by Diane :

"Ben vous voyez, votre patois on s'en fiche complet ... Mais si je veux, je suis certaine que je vais trouver un traducteur !

Décidément trop stupide celui-là!! "

Yes, that´s right - if you want YOU find a way to translate your text !
- And YOU have to find because you´re in the English forum here.-

Beside this obviously you did simply not understand the irony of Mikael´s posting.

Décidément trop stupide cette femme!!!
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Old 26-06-2011, 18:10   #8
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Décidément trop stupide cette femme!!!
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Old 26-06-2011, 18:20   #9
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Please ask to your kind and so beloved "Admin" to write in french on the french forum. It has been asked too many times, in vain ...

But the "admin" is the dictator who has the right to say, write, ignore what he wants ...

And yes, on an english forum we speak english ... and the french forum is red by french people who speaks french and sometimes doesn't care anything at all about speaking in english ...

Just respect this next time and everything's will be ok.

"Décidément trop stupide cette femme !"
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Old 26-06-2011, 18:33   #10
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So, threats of suing people asides, what's the plan to contain the false pedigrees and mix-using in France?

If Admin say who she or he is, will it fix this?

Actually Admin need not say anything if French breeders and French KC dealt with the problem earlier?

Unless someone really is still believing there are not mixes or false pedigrees used in France which the KC is not addressing right now?

Shouldn't first concern of a breeder be the welfare of the breed?
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Old 26-06-2011, 18:45   #11
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"Diane" - may be you´re also not intelligent enough to see that I´m not admin ??

Also Mikael , Rona and all the other users of ENGLISH forum are not admin !

.......................Have you got it now ?...................

And if YOU - several times !- write such things like ...trop stupide...

you only show your lack of manners and correct behaviour.

Apparemment, vous n'êtes pas habitué à s'exprimer correctement et poliment - sans parler de l'arrogance d'écrire seulement en français ici.

La stupidité et de mauvaises manières sont sans doute entièrement de votre côté!

Vielleicht sollte ich ja noch Etwas auf Deutsch schreiben, damit Sie Ihre Unverschämtheit einmal begreifen ? Aber ich glaube, dazu sind Sie wohl gar nicht in der Lage...

Ps: I also don´t know admin , and he´s not my beloved one - but may be even more than you !

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Old 27-06-2011, 20:10   #12
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Be sure ADMIN that as PROFESIONAL BREEDER, even i am not in your target, here in France, DEFAMATION facts are punished by law.
The same is with fraud.
If you are going to the shop, if you buy a golden ring and you pay for golden ring. You must get a ring made of gold.
If you go to a breeder and you want to buy a PUREBREED dog and when you pay for a purebreed dog you must get a purebreed dog. If you get a mongrel with pedigree it is a FRAUD!

So start to use a law for cleaning your country (your kennel club) out of the cheaters.
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Old 27-06-2011, 20:28   #13
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End with the speaking about me. Now I have very easy correct question to the French people posting in this topic.

There is no doubt that some French pedigrees are cheated. That some dogs are mixes. so my question to each of you is:

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM?
WHICH OFFICIALS DID YOU CONTACTED?
DID YOU INFORM YOUR KENNEL CLUB ABOUT THE CHEATERS?
DID YOU INFORM YOU BREED CLUB ABOUT THE FAKE PEDIGREES AND ASKED FOR DOING SOMETHING?
DID YOU ASKED FOR OFFICIAL DNA TESTS BY THE SUSPICIOUS DOGS?
DID YOU INFORMED THE FRENCH OFFICIALS ABOUT BREAKING THE LAW ABOUT PROTECTED ANIMALS?
DID YOU INFORMED THE FRENCH OFFICIALS ABOUT BREAKING THE LAW ABOUT KEEPING DANGEROUS ANIMALS?

Please write me what have you done beside writing about the bad bad admin...
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