CSV červené barvy (Saarloos crosses by Crying wolf)

[saschia]

No je, lenze to som netusila ze by Edit mala Saarloosy. A Aj Sibir aj Thalia pochadzaju z jej stanice... takze?

Hladat v tom Saarloosy je samozrejme najjednoduchsie a najrealistickejsie. Ovsem, teoreticky, ak by mal Fallko Kollarov dvor jeden z genov TYRP1 poskodeny (a mutacie sa deju pravidelne), tak by toto sfarbenie v tomto spojeni mohlo vzniknut... Co som len tak narychlo mrkla o charakteristike bb sfarbenia u psov, jedna sa o niekolko roznych mutacii, ktore aj v kombinacii sposobuju hnede (v zmysle hnedy pigment namiesto cierneho, hnedy nos a sliznice), hlbsie som sa zatial nedostala (pristup k clankom z domu nemam), ale z toho mi zatial vyplyva obycajna strata funkcie daneho proteinu, ktora lahko nastava aj de novo mutaciami.

Kazdopadne je to vazna tema, netreba ju brat nalahko, ale ani hned organizovat hony na carodejnice... Bohuzial, pri dnesnej tendecii robit stence pre biznis a nie pre plemeno sa prikrizenie Saarloosov neda jednoznacne vylucit...

[leila]

Originally Posted by saschia

No je, lenze to som netusila ze by Edit mala Saarloosy.

ona nemá len čsv pokiaľ viem... tuším som niekde čítala, že má aj sav a ešte ďalšie plemená... ale ber to s rezervou túto info.

[saschia]

Nevravim ze nema, len o tom neviem, ale zas ja o vela veciach neviem, ze? Len som chcela povedat, ze prikrizenie SAV je vazne obvinenie (aj ak by k nemu doslo nechtiac) a ze by sme nemali zabudat na ine moznosti, ktore su realne. Ale ani to prikrizenie SAV netreba pustat zo zretela, kazdopadne je dobre, ze Lorry je poctiva a o cervenych stencoch informovala komunitu, kolko chovatelov by sa to proste snazilo ututlat? Bohuzial...

[leila]

ee, vravím, že to vyplýva z jej FB a fotografií jej chs....

[elf]

Originally Posted by saschia

Hladat v tom Saarloosy je samozrejme najjednoduchsie a najrealistickejsie. Ovsem, teoreticky, ak by mal Fallko Kollarov dvor jeden z genov TYRP1 poskodeny (a mutacie sa deju pravidelne), tak by toto sfarbenie v tomto spojeni mohlo vzniknut... Co som len tak narychlo mrkla o charakteristike bb sfarbenia u psov, jedna sa o niekolko roznych mutacii, ktore aj v kombinacii sposobuju hnede (v zmysle hnedy pigment namiesto cierneho, hnedy nos a sliznice), hlbsie som sa zatial nedostala (pristup k clankom z domu nemam), ale z toho mi zatial vyplyva obycajna strata funkcie daneho proteinu, ktora lahko nastava aj de novo mutaciami.

An interesting part in the paper, the fact that the authors did not consider for "Grackle" case a de novo mutation possibility could show their thinking about the time scale of those kind of mutation is not so short:

"It is not sur-prising that the recessive brown could be maintained in
black dogs for many generations. Grackle, who carries one copy of
the proline deletion in TYRP1 (Table 3), was black and white,
and her closest brown German Longhair ancestor is six gen-
erations back."

[Hanka]

Prosím není tu někdo, kdo má potomky, Moni z Krotkovského dvora, Fallka Kollárov dvor, kdo by nám poskytnul DNA? Znáte někoho takového? Máte na něj kontakt?

[Hanka]

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[Elar]

As I know, Issar Kollarov dvor is now in the kennel Crying wolf.
Do you think that Edit Molnar will agree to testing?

[admin]

Originally Posted by Elar

As I know, Issar Kollarov dvor is now in the kennel Crying wolf.
Do you think that Edit Molnar will agree to testing?

I doubt.

But I see there are several dogs from the I-Kollarov dvor litter living in Slovakia. Maybe it is possible to use them?

[Elar]

Originally Posted by Admin

I doubt.

But I see there are several dogs from the I-Kollarov dvor litter living in Slovakia. Maybe it is possible to use them?

I hope that yes