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Old 28-04-2011, 21:37   #1
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The mother has hd test,A(0/0),the father is stil not even 1 1/2 years old!this litter wasn´t suposed to have happened!when my bith began the heat I went to the vet to ask if the dog,still PUPPY could make the bitch pregnant and he said no way,that he was too young to do so,and I trusted the vet.1 month latter I began to notice my bitch a little larger,but I thought that I was overfeeding her.one week later,for my surprise,I wasn't overfeeding her,she was pregnant!!!I then spoke with the vet,but what could I do?! as she was 3 years old I let her have the litter.I didn't wanted her to have babies becaus I wanted to participate with her in dogshows.she is already champion of portugal and gibraltar,missing only one point to be international champion,and i wanted to do that missing point in a dogshow in spain near where I live,the dogshow of luxembourg,monaco and the spanish championship.so very bad timing for the litter..I have dogs because I LOVE them,and I love to show them,and not to make money.bad for my "pocket",good for my soul...
I once had a girlfriend that was complaining all the time that I was spending too much time,effort and money with my dogs...result?the dogs stayed and the girlfriend went to complain to another place/one!
my dogs are as my sons!!!sometimes I buy cheaper things to eat for myself,but for my dogs they always get the best!when I'm ill,to be able to take properly care of my dogs seems to accelarate my recovering!psychological?perhaps,but it works!!!
about the father not having the hd test because he is still too young,in a while I'm going to test him too and then the puppy.
as the puppy was born in christmas day,it has a very special meaning for me,and even if the hd test is not the ideal(But of course I hope that she has hd 0/0),I'll keep her anyway.As I told before,I have this bread not to have litters and make money,but because I love the bread!!!hd o/o or not,she will be equaly special for me...if the hd test is ok,perhaps I have a litter later,if not,she stays as the very,very special christmas gift from my other dogs and as another wonderful friend,family member as the others...
I hope that I don´t see any more questions about hd,and instead some advices about the look of the puppies.about the character I already know which is my favorite,but I repeat,none of them is realy shy,just one is shameless,fearless,crazy and the other is more normal,friendly but sometimes more careful than the other.
why I still have them with 4 months?because the one that is going to another person is neither for dogshows nor for breading,and as I only can keep one,I wanted to know them better,so I keep the prettiest to dogshows,since both are equaly important/loving to me,none of them is realy shy,so both ok of character,and the new owners don´t mind that I do so.
my other 4 male puppies,perhaps one will participate in dogshows,but it is not sure.so my only sure way to show a dog of my breed will be the female that I will keep.although I love dogshows,my main concern was not to sell them to owners that take them to dogshows,but that they get owners that treat them well,very good.This was the most important thing to me!
so please help me JUST with advices concerning the way they look,ok?
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Old 28-04-2011, 21:43   #2
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The mother has hd test,A(0/0),the father is stil not even 1 1/2 years old!
to young to make HD but not to young to make puppy realy christmas hystory.

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so please help me JUST with advices concerning the way they look,ok?
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I say- sold both

p.s. i realy want to see Odin video like he move and runn.
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Old 28-04-2011, 21:55   #3
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please don't remember me about odin's breeder!!!I was in a good mood until you talked again about it...
about odin's video I'll try to do one and send it to you.
about the puppies,you don't advice to keep any of them only because...we know why...or also because the way they look?you don't like them?why/what in particular?what is not so good?and wich of them do you think is better,forgetting for a while...
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please don't remember me about odin's breeder!!!I was in a good mood until you talked again about it...
about odin's video I'll try to do one and send it to you.
about the puppies,you don't advice to keep any of them only because...we know why...or also because the way they look?you don't like them?why/what in particular?what is not so good?and wich of them do you think is better,forgetting for a while...
thanks for video I very wait :0
why .. not breeder but ... I love a wolfdog - with a wolfdog anatomy and angulation and .. and
You have nice and interesing female, but for she better used others male - do You self not see diferent in anatomy? In this case I recomendation a little read a standart and books about breeding and anatomy and only later think want breed or not
I hope I help You with this info.
thanks about video
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Old 28-04-2011, 22:13   #5
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yes I see the difference,of course,I also prefer the female,the proportions...
but I don't think that the male is not correct/bad,just not so good as the female...I've seen such males winning dogshows here...and not only here,and not only males...some judges should never judge twh!!!
about the puppies,I don´t know,I'm very sentimental,I know...
if you were as sentimental as I am,,nevertheless,wich female puppy is at the moment more promissing?
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yes I see the difference,of course,I also prefer the female,the proportions...
but I don't think that the male is not correct/bad,just not so good as the female...I've seen such males winning dogshows here...and not only here,and not only males...some judges should never judge twh!!!
about the puppies,I don´t know,I'm very sentimental,I know...
if you were as sentimental as I am,,nevertheless,wich female puppy is at the moment more promissing?
moore photo please- when puppy stay, runn and photo body and head.
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these are the best I have from them that are more actual!I have others,but not moving...many times when I go to the beach with them,I realy try to make nice fotos,but I think that I have to buy a better camera,because they are too fast for the one I have!!!
I sent more fotos of the darker puppy because the ears were not totaly visible in the detailed foto of her head that I posted before.
as soon as I have the film and the fotos in the beach,i'll send them to you and post here the best.
I think they are quite diferent,but due to my lack of experience at this age I don't know wich is more promissing for sure!I think the darker is more correct,am I wrong?the darker is also a little larger,heavier,but in general better,or not???
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I have dogs because I LOVE them
this is a reason to care about ther health, isn't it?
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Old 29-04-2011, 08:44   #9
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I'm not a breeder, but I heard experienced breeders saying that the best time to select puppies is between they're 5-6 weeks. Not earlier, because they all look like sweet teddies, and not later, because later different parts of their bodies grow at various speed and by the time they're fully matured one can judge only roughly how nice/ugly they'll finally be.

I saw some dogs that looked beautiful and "ready" at the time they were 5-9 months, and then grew up to very average CSVs, often too heavy. On the other hand some later "beauties" and champions looked quite 'starved' and clumsy when growing.

To tell you the truth, I would be really surprised if any knowledgeable breeder advised you which pup you should keep on the basis of just a few bad photos (not even showing properly the proportions/colours of the the pups) and without seeing them live. In my opinion - too great responsibility!
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Could you please invite someone to help you - one person could kepp a puppy standing in a show possition, other could make a photo?
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Old 29-04-2011, 17:34   #11
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I'll try...you don't imagine the wild,but also tender,they are...
and I haven't began their education yet,just the basic...
as soon as I manage to do so,I'll put themhere,and thank you again for all the help.
each time I take pictures of them to show them to make a decision,my heart hurts...I'm already so used to both...but as explained before,even if I want,I can't stay with both!damned law...
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I'll try...you don't imagine the wild,but also tender,they are...
and I haven't began their education yet,just the basic...

as soon as I manage to do so,I'll put themhere,and thank you again for all the help.
each time I take pictures of them to show them to make a decision,my heart hurts...I'm already so used to both...but as explained before,even if I want,I can't stay with both!damned law...
why have you not done anything with these pups?
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What do you mean with that?anything?I said that I already began with the basics,with the basic obedience(stay,no,sit,lye down,come,walk at the side...)! and socialization too,with other dogs,other people,noises,cars,etc...
Should I beeing doing more beside this?
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What do you mean with that?anything?I said that I already began with the basics,with the basic obedience(stay,no,sit,lye down,come,walk at the side...)! and socialization too,with other dogs,other people,noises,cars,etc...
Should I beeing doing more beside this?
then i misunderstood you post,i am sorry

but you really need to make a decision soon...for the pups sake imo.
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