Is the Czechoslovakian wolfdog breed for me?

[tupacs2legs]

csv's dont eat much someone needs to remind Tupac!

and shy for training? are you talking csv or swh?

my Tupac gets very 'switched on' to training and when he is focussing he does it well...the trick is making it short and fun imo.

i am also concerned with the doggy daycare aspect or do you have a separate section for the staff dogs?

[IAmLisaP]

Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

csv's dont eat much someone needs to remind Tupac!

and shy for training? are you talking csv or swh?

my Tupac gets very 'switched on' to training and when he is focussing he does it well...the trick is making it short and fun imo.

i am also concerned with the doggy daycare aspect or do you have a separate section for the staff dogs?

No we don't. The pup would be with me when I'm in the room. I will ask to always be in the small dog room while he or she is still a baby then once he gets older and goes into the big dog room I will still be with him. The dig day care isn't like most, we are very strict with the play. They can't get to rough and can't bark or run around like mad dogs. It helps reduce the excitement levels to reduce the risks of fights to slum to none. We take like 2 or three dogs at a time outside to run in the yards to get there energy out. it's a very good facility. I have work at some really bad ones where they let the dogs do whatever they want and they always fought.

[tupacs2legs]

Originally Posted by IAmLisaP

No we don't. The pup would be with me when I'm in the room. I will ask to always be in the small dog room while he or she is still a baby then once he gets older and goes into the big dog room I will still be with him. The dig day care isn't like most, we are very strict with the play. They can't get to rough and can't bark or run around like mad dogs. It helps reduce the excitement levels to reduce the risks of fights to slum to none. We take like 2 or three dogs at a time outside to run in the yards to get there energy out. it's a very good facility. I have work at some really bad ones where they let the dogs do whatever they want and they always fought.

i would still worry sorry especially as its mainly an indoor facility.

[Murph]

Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

i would still worry sorry especially as its mainly an indoor facility.

Why?.. If you are supervising your own dog?

[tupacs2legs]

Originally Posted by Murph

Why?.. If you are supervising your own dog?

you are meant to be supervising your clients dogs

so the owner will be in the same room the whole time? ime a male wolfdog will need extensive training and watching for at least the first 2.5 years of life to possibly accept the sort of situation this would lead to,csv's are not always accepting of other dogs once they are fully mature ,of course they make friends as young dogs and they tend to keep these relationships throughout..but asking him to accept strange dogs everyday of his life in a fairly confined(indoor) setup could possibly be a challenge (that u may loose)and alot to ask of him..of course there are always exceptions.

[IAmLisaP]

Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

csv's dont eat much someone needs to remind Tupac!

and shy for training? are you talking csv or swh?

my Tupac gets very 'switched on' to training and when he is focussing he does it well...the trick is making it short and fun imo.

i am also concerned with the doggy daycare aspect or do you have a separate section for the staff dogs?

The rooms are supervised 24/7 btw

[jefta]

About 5 years ago I have dreamed about sucesfull training with this amaizing breed. Before buying I saw hunderds of csv on shows, meetings and training camps. I saw that everything is great only in internet. In real is much worst. I m from Poland not from USA so it was possible to see so much csv from varius coutries, lines etc. I had oportunities to make decision with knowlege all facts. After that I change my plans and I dont espect training sucses, but i decided to buy csv-very nice companion dog for activ people.

[tupacs2legs]

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I dont espect training sucses,

i find that sad i see that as failure as a trainer not as a failure of the breed.

[jefta]

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Originally Posted by jefta

I dont espect training sucses,

i find that sad i see that as failure as a trainer not as a failure of the breed.

Its not so bad I want to train her for mayby top 10 of the breed. But in all its not high level


p.s high level for me is national or even world championship. Vaiva, Tupac, how much csv complete in national championship in any coutry and any discypline? Not much (any?) for so perfect working breed

[Rona]

Originally Posted by jefta

Its not so bad I want to train her for mayby top 10 of the breed. But in all its not high level

p.s high level for me is national or even world championship. Vaiva, Tupac, how much csv complete in national championship in any coutry and any discypline? Not much (any?) for so perfect working breed

Apparently you dreamed of a "nice" CSV Post 17: http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17300

CSVs differ from each other a lot. Some individuals are better with kids, some - with sports, others - with tracking/trailing or guarding, etc.etc. If somebody wants a working champion he/she should get a more specialized, "nice" breed.

I belive CSVs are more like kids in the family. While they're growing the owner should let the dog try various activities and watch which he/she is best at and then develop this particular talent. We found obedience boring, agility too "controlled", tracking OK, but trailing... most fascinating and interesting!

There was a discussion on this topic earlier, but many experienced owners found out that CSVs are best at "real" work activites - searching humans, guarding places, helping their owners in field work of any sort. However seriously taken, sport is always a "mock" activity.

[jefta]

Rona wrote that her Lorka is first not shy csv seen by her trainer. And you where so suprised when I wrote that they are shy...

same times ago I changed my opinion about training for similar to Rona.


just few csv works in reserching and traking. If as guarding dog you understand dog which is barking by gate but run away from figurant-yes they are good guarding dogs... I know much dogs this expiriend owners and my opinion about them is diffrent then owners opinion. I was thinking about it when I wrote that "internet true" is difrent than reality

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by jefta

p.s high level for me is national or even world championship. Vaiva, Tupac, how much csv complete in national championship in any coutry and any discypline? Not much (any?) for so perfect working breed

First of all I do not know any CSV owners who would want to train their dogs for national/world championships. You must be the first. We have 400 breeds and mostly people who want sports or training also like other breeds. Admit - the ones who buy wolfdogs are very different from ones, who buy GSD, I have friends in love with GSD or Belgians and I find big differences between them and people having CSV, bull type breeds or hunting dogs. Most people who choose CSV are not so trainable themselves I myself find training boring and meaningless - I have my perfect dog, who can travel by train or bus, walk with me wherever I want, deal with situations and people - and she is much better in this when some training champions. Why should I want a dog who is good at protection if I am not working in police or army? Where will I use her ability to sit in one comand while we are walking? What is the use of jumping up the barriers?
In my "most beloved" breeds list come shibas, shikokus, salukis, bullterriers and now dogo argentino is coming to it hardly (because of one very special dog ) - not belgians, bordercollies, gsd. They are lovely and beautifull, but not the dogs that woulld be happy with me

[Rona]

Originally Posted by Vaiva

Most people who choose CSV are not so trainable themselves I myself find training boring and meaningless - I have my perfect dog, who can travel by train or bus, walk with me wherever I want, deal with situations and people - and she is much better in this when some training champions. Why should I want a dog who is good at protection if I am not working in police or army? Where will I use her ability to sit in one comand while we are walking? What is the use of jumping up the barriers?

Very good post, Vaiva! Vlcaks are rational dogs for rational people