Database question - who did it?

draggar · 11-04-2011, 20:38

I didn't know there was a PD issue with the vlcaks (and the issue with GSDs is small now) but I'll be sure to add it.

Satu - ? I did a quick Google search and it looks like it's only done on humans?

Mikael - height at the withers, not a bad idea.

I am willing to work with the admins on getting the one here complete so we don't have redundancy. I'd rather have one complete one than several different ones.

saschia · 11-04-2011, 20:50

draggar - just main threads on PD here on wolfdog:

test available - http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10756
dwarves born - http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13387

it is an issue - although not pronounced yet - mostly because the pups either die or are not talked about

draggar · 11-04-2011, 21:12

Thank you for the links - PD in CSV seems the same as in GSD - just a smaller version with other health issues that can be mild to severe. We had a PD scare with our GSD litter last year but we later learned that the sire will throw a small puppy who will look like a PD but then have a growth spirt (in the 3-8 month time frame I think) and the pup will catch up - and that is exactly what he did.

His PD test came back as negative, so he was just a small puppy (but a phenomenal temperament on him - one of the best we've seen in a male for working!). OUr vit did a lot of studying on it at that time, too, since there was the potential that one of her clients would have a PD.

Too bad there are the other health issues, PD pups would make excellent pets.

GalomyOak · 11-04-2011, 21:52

The biggest diffuculty with testing for PD for owners in the US, is that the only lab in the world testing for it is in Holland, and they require fresh blood (not an FTA card). The logistics are...difficult. The University of Missouri is currently collecting blood samples from dwarves and their family (parents, siblings, grandparents) for free, so maybe in the future we can also have a test also.

saschia · 11-04-2011, 21:59

As far as I know you can also send isolated DNA, so for example Laboklin has the test in their offer.

*Satu · 11-04-2011, 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by draggar

Satu - ? I did a quick Google search and it looks like it's only done on humans?

No. In Finland vet. eye specialist make this also.
You can be sure my pack is going to the Gonioscopy. Baron have been there in last week.

Fu*k Google ask me

.... Gonioscopy in dogshttp://www.google.fi/search?hl=fi&q=...&aqi=&aql=&oq=

11-04-2011, 20:38	#1
draggar Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 370	I didn't know there was a PD issue with the vlcaks (and the issue with GSDs is small now) but I'll be sure to add it. Satu - ? I did a quick Google search and it looks like it's only done on humans? Mikael - height at the withers, not a bad idea. I am willing to work with the admins on getting the one here complete so we don't have redundancy. I'd rather have one complete one than several different ones. __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

11-04-2011, 20:50	#2
saschia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bratislava Posts: 936	draggar - just main threads on PD here on wolfdog: test available - http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10756 dwarves born - http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13387 it is an issue - although not pronounced yet - mostly because the pups either die or are not talked about __________________ Saschia (Sasa Zahradnikova) http://www.chiens-loup-tchecoslovaqu...ei-et-damon.ws

11-04-2011, 21:12	#3
draggar Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 370	Thank you for the links - PD in CSV seems the same as in GSD - just a smaller version with other health issues that can be mild to severe. We had a PD scare with our GSD litter last year but we later learned that the sire will throw a small puppy who will look like a PD but then have a growth spirt (in the 3-8 month time frame I think) and the pup will catch up - and that is exactly what he did. His PD test came back as negative, so he was just a small puppy (but a phenomenal temperament on him - one of the best we've seen in a male for working!). OUr vit did a lot of studying on it at that time, too, since there was the potential that one of her clients would have a PD. Too bad there are the other health issues, PD pups would make excellent pets. __________________ Fred Lanting's Official Site Dog Actors

11-04-2011, 21:52	#4
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	The biggest diffuculty with testing for PD for owners in the US, is that the only lab in the world testing for it is in Holland, and they require fresh blood (not an FTA card). The logistics are...difficult. The University of Missouri is currently collecting blood samples from dwarves and their family (parents, siblings, grandparents) for free, so maybe in the future we can also have a test also. __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

11-04-2011, 21:59	#5
saschia Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bratislava Posts: 936	As far as I know you can also send isolated DNA, so for example Laboklin has the test in their offer. __________________ Saschia (Sasa Zahradnikova) http://www.chiens-loup-tchecoslovaqu...ei-et-damon.ws