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Old 23-11-2010, 21:17   #1
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Nowadays when the DNA testing is so easy and not even expencive,
I truly hope it will become compulsory routine procedure soon.
Maybe the fights against the many hereditary deseases of pure bred dogs will then actually have some effect...
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Old 23-11-2010, 21:34   #2
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Nowadays when the DNA testing is so easy and not even expencive,
I truly hope it will become compulsory routine procedure soon.
In Sweden (and I think allso in Belgium) you must make a DNA test to prove that the bitch and male on the pedigree are the parents to every puppy in a new litter.

This in Sweden are only on Saarloos and Cs Vlcak breed, so that no wolf (or GSD can bee added)

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Old 23-11-2010, 23:03   #3
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In Sweden (and I think allso in Belgium) you must make a DNA test to prove that the bitch and male on the pedigree are the parents to every puppy in a new litter.

This in Sweden are only on Saarloos and Cs Vlcak breed, so that no wolf (or GSD can bee added)

Best regards / Mikael
Thanks for the info. I think that should be the case in every dog breed.
-True, verified pedigrees for all!
I hope it will happen in Finland soon. It has been discussed for a while now since every year more and more false pedigrees come out.
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Thanks for the info. I think that should be the case in every dog breed.
-True, verified pedigrees for all!
I hope it will happen in Finland soon. It has been discussed for a while now since every year more and more false pedigrees come out.
I think in about 5-6 years ALL breeds in Sweden will need it to

That will STOP all the false pedigree´s for good ! Or at least a new start of mixes

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when someone decided to add a wolf even dna test will be no blockade, just raide costs (buying/importing only tatooed csv and make wolf the same tatoo)
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Old 24-11-2010, 03:18   #6
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when someone decided to add a wolf even dna test will be no blockade, just raide costs (buying/importing only tatooed csv and make wolf the same tatoo)
In Finland it must be microchip. The tattoos are no longer accepted.
It will get pretty difficult to manipulate the pedigrees after the compulsory DNA samples.
If it would not take away all the misspresented pedigrees, it will atleast take away most of them, I believe.
Because I doubt that many breeders have the contacts & abilities & scills (or even will) to go as far as getting identical microchips for false parents.
How to do it? I am no expert on this matter, and I don't know how easy it would be to get another chip with identical code. But one way would be to kill the original animal and cut the chip out of it and replace it to another. But that act, -as my opinion-, reguires abit more than just a common irresponsible breeder/liar...

Anyways... I think it is a good start, and will help fighting against false pedigrees. there is no good reason to NOT to reguire it nowadays when it is simple and easy, and not even expensive procedure.
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Old 24-11-2010, 08:44   #7
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In Lithuania dogs, born after 2011 01 01 will have to have chips and also there is a possibility to make DNR tests - if Kennel club has a doubt, they can tell you to do it. And in a small country, where everybody knows each other it is, it is difficult to keep secrets
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In Finland it must be microchip. The tattoos are no longer accepted.
It will get pretty difficult to manipulate the pedigrees after the compulsory DNA samples.
If it would not take away all the misspresented pedigrees, it will atleast take away most of them, I believe.
Because I doubt that many breeders have the contacts & abilities & scills (or even will) to go as far as getting identical microchips for false parents.
How to do it? I am no expert on this matter, and I don't know how easy it would be to get another chip with identical code. But one way would be to kill the original animal and cut the chip out of it and replace it to another. But that act, -as my opinion-, reguires abit more than just a common irresponsible breeder/liar...

Anyways... I think it is a good start, and will help fighting against false pedigrees. there is no good reason to NOT to reguire it nowadays when it is simple and easy, and not even expensive procedure.
Tattoo is correct also in this moment...

1.1.2001 identification system (either Life Chip (Indexel) - Data or Mars, or microchip
tattoo) is mandatory for the official Kennel Club dog shows, trials and competitions. The Kennel Club
accepts from 1.1.2009, all in accordance with the ISO 11784 standard microchips do not have the country code.
ISO 11784 standard chips have been approved06/01/2009 .
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