Official CSV club in Germany?

michaelundinaeichhorn · 02/11/10, 11:51

As there are several registered breeds that are banned in countries I can´t see any proof in this.
There are also registered breeds with the VDH that are on dangerous dog lists...

Per Olav · 02/11/10, 12:20

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

As there are several registered breeds that are banned in countries I can´t see any proof in this.
There are also registered breeds with the VDH that are on dangerous dog lists...

Excactly. The CSV/TWH is a FCI registered breed but nevertheless banned in Norway.

hanninadina · 02/11/10, 12:26

How can a dog be banned and start in the biggest dog show in germany in Dortmund? If he is banned he even could not be there...

By the way Per, in germany wolfdogs are allowed from F 1. There is no definte law which forbites. The EU-law 318/2008 from 08.04.2008 says only that hybrids from F 1- F 4 from the wild(!) wolf are endangerend species, if there are stable populations in the wild! Even our german wild wolves do not have a stable population. That EU-law was made for countries like spain, greece, rumania and others, but of course not for germany.

On this Dangeranimals laws (Gefahrtierverordnung) from some countries in germany, is only said that you need a permission to have a preadtor like a wolf. In one country it is totally forbidden and in one only for the use for scientific research. But nothing is said about having hybrids. And as Ina wrote, the czechoslovakian wolfdog is on no dangerous doglist in germanys countries.

hanninadina · 02/11/10, 12:36

You did ask how it is in germany and not how it is in norway! But are you allowed to show csw in Norway in dogshows? No, of course not. They would take away a csw at the border and kill the dog. So you see the difference! When I remember right, there are list from the dogs who appear in the shows on the website of the vdh. Here are the results from two weeks ago, please scroll down there you find the csw:

http://edienst.vdh.de/frontend/gesamt?z_id=7&fci=1

Maybe that is a proof?

Per Olav · 02/11/10, 13:04

Hi Christian.

Thank you for your replies. The reason for asking the question is that the author of the Wiki article on CSV/TWH did not believe that Norway is the single country opposing a ban on the breed but argues that to his/her knowledge the breed is banned not only in Norway but in Germany as well.

Mikael · 02/11/10, 19:42

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Originally Posted by Per Olav

Hi Christian.

Thank you for your replies. The reason for asking the question is that the author of the Wiki article on CSV/TWH did not believe that Norway is the single country opposing a ban on the breed but argues that to his/her knowledge the breed is banned not only in Norway but in Germany as well.

There was a girl about two years ago, she wanted to get a CsV, but got the info that they was not OK for import to Iceland.

Do you know anything about Iceland´s dog law Per :0/ ???

Best regards / Mikael

Per Olav · 02/11/10, 19:56

A bit off topic, but to my knowledge Iceland is very restrictive on importing dogs. I believe the keeping of dogs are allowed in Reykjavik, the capital of Iceland, but not elesewhere. I may be wrong about that

02/11/10, 13:04	#5
Per Olav Junior Member Datum registrace: Nov 2003 Příspěvků: 395	Hi Christian. Thank you for your replies. The reason for asking the question is that the author of the Wiki article on CSV/TWH did not believe that Norway is the single country opposing a ban on the breed but argues that to his/her knowledge the breed is banned not only in Norway but in Germany as well. __________________ Per Olav Last edited by Per Olav : 02/11/10 at 14:24

02/11/10, 19:56	#7
Per Olav Junior Member Datum registrace: Nov 2003 Příspěvků: 395	A bit off topic, but to my knowledge Iceland is very restrictive on importing dogs. I believe the keeping of dogs are allowed in Reykjavik, the capital of Iceland, but not elesewhere. I may be wrong about that __________________ Per Olav

02/11/10, 11:51	#1
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Datum registrace: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Příspěvků: 2249	As there are several registered breeds that are banned in countries I can´t see any proof in this. There are also registered breeds with the VDH that are on dangerous dog lists...

02/11/10, 12:26	#3
hanninadina Senior Member Datum registrace: Nov 2003 Příspěvků: 2466	How can a dog be banned and start in the biggest dog show in germany in Dortmund? If he is banned he even could not be there... By the way Per, in germany wolfdogs are allowed from F 1. There is no definte law which forbites. The EU-law 318/2008 from 08.04.2008 says only that hybrids from F 1- F 4 from the wild(!) wolf are endangerend species, if there are stable populations in the wild! Even our german wild wolves do not have a stable population. That EU-law was made for countries like spain, greece, rumania and others, but of course not for germany. On this Dangeranimals laws (Gefahrtierverordnung) from some countries in germany, is only said that you need a permission to have a preadtor like a wolf. In one country it is totally forbidden and in one only for the use for scientific research. But nothing is said about having hybrids. And as Ina wrote, the czechoslovakian wolfdog is on no dangerous doglist in germanys countries.

02/11/10, 12:36	#4
hanninadina Senior Member Datum registrace: Nov 2003 Příspěvků: 2466	You did ask how it is in germany and not how it is in norway! But are you allowed to show csw in Norway in dogshows? No, of course not. They would take away a csw at the border and kill the dog. So you see the difference! When I remember right, there are list from the dogs who appear in the shows on the website of the vdh. Here are the results from two weeks ago, please scroll down there you find the csw: http://edienst.vdh.de/frontend/gesamt?z_id=7&fci=1 Maybe that is a proof?