Crate training your CSV?

michaelundinaeichhorn · 18-08-2010, 21:41

We let our younger dogs sleep in a crate overnight till they are out of destroing age, what´s usually the case with around 1-2 years. When the crate is open in the dog´s room they like to sleep in it though they don´t have to, sometimes two of the older bitches sleep together in one crate, what´s looks quite crowded but they seem to love the den feeling. As we drive a lot over the day and take the dogs with us most of the time and the young ones in a crate in the car they normally are used to it quite soon and simply sleep till the next action takes part.
I got the impression over now 12 years that wolfdogs sleep quietly pretty soon in their crate when you signal them that there is no way of discussion. If they have the feeling they have possibility for making arrangements with their owner they will discuss everything with a very high endurance. This is a common rule with dogs but wolfdogs are extreme with this point.
Crate or other themes owners with a straight mind don´t have many problems.

Ina

GalomyOak · 18-08-2010, 22:21

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

I got the impression over now 12 years that wolfdogs sleep quietly pretty soon in their crate when you signal them that there is no way of discussion. If they have the feeling they have possibility for making arrangements with their owner they will discuss everything with a very high endurance. This is a common rule with dogs but wolfdogs are extreme with this point.
Crate or other themes owners with a straight mind don´t have many problems.

Ina

YES!!! Exactly!

michaelundinaeichhorn · 18-08-2010, 22:42

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YES!!! Exactly!

what brings me back to the discussion if they are difficult or not. As I am a very straight but patient person (only with animals

) that gets bored very easily, for me they are not, all in all I find them quite amusing and interesting from the ethological point of view.
For another type of person, especially for those that tend to change moods or minds very easily and that get excited very fast, they are very difficult, often too difficult.
I think this is the main reason for the very different experiences we hear about in this forum.

mijke · 19-08-2010, 00:34

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I got the impression over now 12 years that wolfdogs sleep quietly pretty soon in their crate when you signal them that there is no way of discussion. If they have the feeling they have possibility for making arrangements with their owner they will discuss everything with a very high endurance. This is a common rule with dogs but wolfdogs are extreme with this point.

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

what brings me back to the discussion if they are difficult or not. As I am a very straight but patient person (only with animals

) that gets bored very easily, for me they are not, all in all I find them quite amusing and interesting from the ethological point of view. For another type of person, especially for those that tend to change moods or minds very easily and that get excited very fast, they are very difficult, often too difficult. I think this is the main reason for the very different experiences we hear about in this forum.

I am not a patient person at all

, but I agree with all these comments !

My profession is to work with "problematic youth" and since years I see a lot of similarities in working and behavior with wolfdogs

(I know it is very tricky for a professional to write these kind of things!)
But for me it is clear that simple rules as "Yes is yes ", "No is no" and now "No discussion is possible" are still working.

I also find these kind of things quite amusing and interesting from the ethological point of view in comparing human and dog world. (and of course I know there are also negative aspects around such points of view in human world! )

Maybe it is an idea to open a new subject about behavior . Then I can also explain more why it is a real great GIFT for me to raise a CsW dwarf pup.

Rona · 19-08-2010, 08:02

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Maybe it is an idea to open a new subject about behavior . Then I can also explain more why it is a real great GIFT for me to raise a CsW dwarf pup.

Please do! I'm sure many people would be interested in your observations and reflections.

michaelundinaeichhorn · 19-08-2010, 08:28

I surely would.

saschia · 19-08-2010, 10:04

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Please do! I'm sure many people would be interested in your observations and reflections.

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I surely would.

Mee too...

yukidomari · 24-09-2010, 19:04

Thanks all.

If our future dog decides to 'pack' some bones into our luggage, we might get into trouble at JP quarantine!

18-08-2010, 21:41	#1
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	We let our younger dogs sleep in a crate overnight till they are out of destroing age, what´s usually the case with around 1-2 years. When the crate is open in the dog´s room they like to sleep in it though they don´t have to, sometimes two of the older bitches sleep together in one crate, what´s looks quite crowded but they seem to love the den feeling. As we drive a lot over the day and take the dogs with us most of the time and the young ones in a crate in the car they normally are used to it quite soon and simply sleep till the next action takes part. I got the impression over now 12 years that wolfdogs sleep quietly pretty soon in their crate when you signal them that there is no way of discussion. If they have the feeling they have possibility for making arrangements with their owner they will discuss everything with a very high endurance. This is a common rule with dogs but wolfdogs are extreme with this point. Crate or other themes owners with a straight mind don´t have many problems. Ina

19-08-2010, 08:28	#6
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	I surely would.

24-09-2010, 19:04	#8
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	Thanks all. If our future dog decides to 'pack' some bones into our luggage, we might get into trouble at JP quarantine!