Height and weight

Stine · 02-08-2010, 23:25

I have been reading the standard and there is something I don't understand.

Some of you said that af CwZ could have a weight that says 40 kg, but in the standard it says 26 kilo gram for males and 20 kilo gram for females. Is there something I don't understand?

I now that the standard is not always how it really is, but there is a 20 kilo gram difference here.

How about the height is that wrong to? it says 65 centimeters for males and 60 centimeters for females.

Rona · 02-08-2010, 23:40

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HEIGHT AND WEIGHT
Height at Withers:
Dogs at least 65 cm
Bitches at least 60 cm
Weight:
Dogs at least 26 kg
Bitches at least 20 kg

At least = minimum

soniakanavle · 02-08-2010, 23:47

I'm not sure why the standard says they're so small... I've often wondered about that as well haha. No CsV that I've met is so small...
My 5 year old male is 100lb (45 kilogram) and 27inches (68 centimeter) at the shoulder and is in perfect shape (not an ounce of fat on him!)
I know females are quite a bit smaller than the males but still a large breed of dog!!
I know it's just the minimum requirements, but I don't know how you COULD breed a GSD and a wolf together and get that small of a dog..

jefta · 03-08-2010, 01:45

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Originally Posted by soniakanavle

I know it's just the minimum requirements, but I don't know how you COULD breed a GSD and a wolf together and get that small of a dog..

but GSD is smaller than CSV

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The German Shepherd Dog is of medium size [...]

Dogs : Height at the withers: 60 to 65 cm.
Weight : 30 to 40 kg.
Bitches : Height at the withers : 55 to 60 cm.
Weight : 22 to 32 kg.

soniakanavle · 03-08-2010, 06:43

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Originally Posted by jefta

but GSD is smaller than CSV

Yes..... I know that.... But breed a GSD and a wolf and you get a dog bigger than a GSD right???
My GSD bitch was 24 inches (60 centimeters) and about 75 pounds (34 kg)
Maybe as with most breeds when they come over, they're bigger in the US?? Like goldfish??

Silvester · 03-08-2010, 08:25

Hmmmm..... you must not forget that in USA nearly everything has the tendency to grow a little bigger than in Europe...

For example the streets , cars, sky-scrapers , the depts and credits

and sometimes also the people -

and the people´s belly and bum too...

(only a joke, don´t misunderstand!)

Why Csw should be an exception ?

soniakanavle · 03-08-2010, 08:34

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Originally Posted by Silvester

Hmmmm..... you must not forget that in USA nearly everything has the tendency to grow a little bigger than in Europe...

For example the streets , cars, sky-scrapers , the depts and credits

and sometimes also the people -

and the people´s belly and bum too...

(only a joke, don´t misunderstand!)

Why Csw should be an exception ?

Hahaha totally! And don't worry, no offense taken!!

Hanka · 03-08-2010, 08:53

A few of statistic datas:
Youth presentation: 2008 -average height of males was 66,9 cm
average height of females was 62 cm
Bonitation: 2008 -average height of males was 67,9 cm (total 17 males)
average height of females was 63,6 cm (total 26 fem.)

Youth presentation: 2009 - average height of males was 67,7 cm
average height of females was 61,7 cm
Bonitation: 2009 - average height of males was 68,5 cm (total 32 males)
average height of females was 62,6 cm (total 37 fem.)

These datas are only from Czech republic!!!!

Mikael · 03-08-2010, 11:27

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Originally Posted by soniakanavle

My 5 year old male is 100lb (45 kilogram) and 27inches (68 centimeter) at the shoulder and is in perfect shape (not an ounce of fat on him!)

I do not know the perfect weight for a male at 68cm, but I think it is about 35kg. 38kg might be a OK weight for a older not training CsV that is 68cm ? but not 45kg.

My boy is about 72cm and has now a weight on 36,5kg that is a bit to slim, I’m trying to get him to about 37,5-38,5kg. But he runs it all off all the time

I think whit any healthy average age CsV you are to be able to run 40km, you can not do that whit a CsV that is 68cm and has a weight on 45kg.

He might not look fat, but he is definitely not in perfect shape. (Standard shape)

Best regards / Mikael

Gaga · 03-08-2010, 12:01

you're right, my dog is over 70 cm and when he passed the exam SVP1 his weight was 42 kg. Only muscles

remember what is important:a body-building (strong bones-or delicate). But I agree: 68 cm and 45 kg are not good proportions.

jefta · 03-08-2010, 12:57

I think that proportion height/weight mostly depends on index of hight (dog with perfect Xv55 weight less than dog Xv50) and chest (dog with perfect chest weight less than dog with deep and wild chest)

jefta · 03-08-2010, 20:13

I made simple graph of CSV height:

I use period 5 years to make it transparent. But I don't now how to put period of time on graph, so 1995 means dogs bonitated in orgin countries in years 1990-1995, 2000 means 1995-2000 etc. As we can see CSV grows

saschia · 03-08-2010, 21:28

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Originally Posted by jefta

As we can see CSV grows

You didn't put the standard errors or deviations, so I might be wrong, but this trend doesn't seem too large for me. I wouldn't expect it to be significant...

soniakanavle · 03-08-2010, 21:41

To be honest, I was surprised when the vet told me his weight the other day (he just said 100 pounds so I don't know if it was a little more or less he didn't say exactly.) And actually I just started cutting down his food intake a little bit since I got him neutered and don't want him to gain any weight.
But he IS in great shape, we go on hikes and long runs together and he has a large yard to play in all day and he ALWAYS has energy!! (I think I've only tired him out once!) I can still feel his hips and ribs so I know he's not overweight. I have a lot of experience with dogs and I HATE when owners let their dogs get obese, it's one of my 'pet peeves.'
Here is a photo of him, I know you can't tell by a photo alone, but he is in great (though maybe not standard) shape.

Mikael · 03-08-2010, 12:12

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Originally Posted by Stine

I have been reading the standard and there is something I don't understand.

Some of you said that af CwZ could have a weight that says 40 kg, but in the standard it says 26 kilo gram for males and 20 kilo gram for females. Is there something I don't understand?

I think what they trying to say is that a female at 60cm are not allowed to weigh under 20kg, and a male at 65cm are not allowed to weigh under 26kg. But it is not optimal weight, it is minimum weight as Rona already did say...

Now the kg go up fast with every cm, I think a big male at 70-72cm can get up to 40kg it depends on he’s body type...

Best regards / Mikael

02-08-2010, 23:25	#1
Stine Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Stevns Posts: 8	standard size I have been reading the standard and there is something I don't understand. Some of you said that af CwZ could have a weight that says 40 kg, but in the standard it says 26 kilo gram for males and 20 kilo gram for females. Is there something I don't understand? I now that the standard is not always how it really is, but there is a 20 kilo gram difference here. How about the height is that wrong to? it says 65 centimeters for males and 60 centimeters for females.

02-08-2010, 23:47	#3
soniakanavle Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Blanco, Texas Posts: 81	I'm not sure why the standard says they're so small... I've often wondered about that as well haha. No CsV that I've met is so small... My 5 year old male is 100lb (45 kilogram) and 27inches (68 centimeter) at the shoulder and is in perfect shape (not an ounce of fat on him!) I know females are quite a bit smaller than the males but still a large breed of dog!! I know it's just the minimum requirements, but I don't know how you COULD breed a GSD and a wolf together and get that small of a dog.. Last edited by soniakanavle; 02-08-2010 at 23:58.

03-08-2010, 08:25	#6
Silvester Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 369	XXX-size Hmmmm..... you must not forget that in USA nearly everything has the tendency to grow a little bigger than in Europe... For example the streets , cars, sky-scrapers , the depts and credits and sometimes also the people - and the people´s belly and bum too... (only a joke, don´t misunderstand!) Why Csw should be an exception ?

03-08-2010, 12:01	#10
Gaga VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Dientitos Posts: 6,856	you're right, my dog is over 70 cm and when he passed the exam SVP1 his weight was 42 kg. Only muscles remember what is important:a body-building (strong bones-or delicate). But I agree: 68 cm and 45 kg are not good proportions. __________________ Hodowca psów to nie funkcja, to nie zawód i nie nazwa hobby - to tytuł i godność. Trzeba na nią zasłużyć i dobrze piastować. チェイタン。

03-08-2010, 12:57	#11
jefta Call Me Sexy Srdcervac Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wroclaw Posts: 1,233	I think that proportion height/weight mostly depends on index of hight (dog with perfect Xv55 weight less than dog Xv50) and chest (dog with perfect chest weight less than dog with deep and wild chest) __________________

03-08-2010, 08:53	#8
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	A few of statistic datas: Youth presentation: 2008 -average height of males was 66,9 cm average height of females was 62 cm Bonitation: 2008 -average height of males was 67,9 cm (total 17 males) average height of females was 63,6 cm (total 26 fem.) Youth presentation: 2009 - average height of males was 67,7 cm average height of females was 61,7 cm Bonitation: 2009 - average height of males was 68,5 cm (total 32 males) average height of females was 62,6 cm (total 37 fem.) These datas are only from Czech republic!!!!

03-08-2010, 20:13	#12
jefta Call Me Sexy Srdcervac Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wroclaw Posts: 1,233	I made simple graph of CSV height: I use period 5 years to make it transparent. But I don't now how to put period of time on graph, so 1995 means dogs bonitated in orgin countries in years 1990-1995, 2000 means 1995-2000 etc. As we can see CSV grows __________________

03-08-2010, 21:41	#14
soniakanavle Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Blanco, Texas Posts: 81	To be honest, I was surprised when the vet told me his weight the other day (he just said 100 pounds so I don't know if it was a little more or less he didn't say exactly.) And actually I just started cutting down his food intake a little bit since I got him neutered and don't want him to gain any weight. But he IS in great shape, we go on hikes and long runs together and he has a large yard to play in all day and he ALWAYS has energy!! (I think I've only tired him out once!) I can still feel his hips and ribs so I know he's not overweight. I have a lot of experience with dogs and I HATE when owners let their dogs get obese, it's one of my 'pet peeves.' Here is a photo of him, I know you can't tell by a photo alone, but he is in great (though maybe not standard) shape.