How much?

Nebulosa · 24-07-2010, 22:34

The main problem is that this FAQ is not new, it shows the price of the pups mainly when you live in the same country that the breeder, but its not truth when you live outside.
Clearly it's for warn people about the unconscious cheap litters comming from pressuposed CzW parents without pedigree and no health control.
The prices of a CzW in the origins countries commonly float around 1000 euros to 1500 euros when it's for export, but depending on the country and of the breeder it can reach over 4000 euros.

Heaven · 26-07-2010, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Nebulosa

The main problem is that this FAQ is not new, it shows the price of the pups mainly when you live in the same country that the breeder, but its not truth when you live outside.
Clearly it's for warn people about the unconscious cheap litters comming from pressuposed CzW parents without pedigree and no health control.
The prices of a CzW in the origins countries commonly float around 1000 euros to 1500 euros when it's for export, but depending on the country and of the breeder it can reach over 4000 euros.

Thanks you so much for your explaination Nebulosa. I appreciate it. Any idea how much is the reservation fee for a puppy? I received an email from one of the breeder who posted on this thread, thank you so much.

Mikael · 26-07-2010, 21:14

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Originally Posted by Heaven

Any idea how much is the reservation fee for a puppy? I received an email from one of the breeder who posted on this thread, thank you so much.

Way do you just not ask the breeder about it

???

Nomal reservation fee is 15-20%

But I hope you know what you are about to order

???

Best regards / Mikael

Nebulosa · 27-07-2010, 07:31

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Originally Posted by Heaven

Thanks you so much for your explaination Nebulosa. I appreciate it. Any idea how much is the reservation fee for a puppy?

No breeder had asked me a fee to confirm the reservation, at start I sent the money for the breeder before travel for pick up the pup, soon I discovered that was easiest to travel with the money and pay direct to the breeder when I picked up the pup than send it via bank and pay several taxes for it.

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I received an email from one of the breeder who posted on this thread, thank you so much.

Have you ever thought about "why would a breeder be so willing to send a pup to another continent?", Czechoslovakian wolfdogs aren't Golden Retrievers or Rottweilers, where you have a lot of bloodlines and animals to use and select, it's a new breed with a very small genetic pool and even less good stud animals.
A good breeder will select the breed for improve it, futurely the breeder will want to use the dog that he breed at breeding, so its common good breeders with good and interesting litters not accept easily to send a dog for far away, as it probably will be a "lost dog" for breeding for them.
Looking at these points you can see that you will only get a good dog if a good breeder already trust you enough for it.
Also, as you live in USA, every good male or good female can be very interesting for the future of the breed in your country as it can be a stud, so the best thing you can do is talk with the North American Breeders and let them help you pointing wich announced litters would be interesting for import, they can help you to chose the litter as, in extreme cases, they can even help you to get in contact with the breeder.
Enter in contact with them, enjoy the opportunity of already have breeders and CzW's in your country to know the breed personaly, see if it's realy what you want for be your friend to the next 15 years and also if you're experienced and prepared enough for have one.

Hanka · 27-07-2010, 09:37

Paula. If it is "for me", I had not problem to send puppy to Patrick. He is very good owner for my puppy. I don´t think, Zahara will be "lost" for breeding. Patrick is in contact with "guarant" of wolfdogs in US- Marcy (Galomy oak) and if Patrick will want, Zahara can be used for US breeding. I hope, Marcy will create US club for our breed and breeding will be "under control". I am happy about so good owner as Patrick is, he works with her and he help to do "good name" of our breed there.
I think, blood of my Wickey and Czambor is not "uniquate" here in Czech. We can have more pups with this blood here in Czech. And I can (and I will) repeat this combination.

wolfin · 27-07-2010, 09:59

And I send in this year one very good male to USA. No problem too send when owner is good and know who is who. I hope my male help with good blood in USA.
I hope one- USA breeder have brain and see who he make with breeding- hope Marcy help with this. My not very like situation when we can have in future "USA wolfdog" - new breed with USA dogs breeding typs (who we can see in others breeds) - longhairig, or with bad angulation or with bad collor. If owner interesing in litters who want buy, not listen only bla bla bla - be ok.

I hope...

GalomyOak · 27-07-2010, 14:36

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Originally Posted by wolfin

And I send in this year one very good male to USA. No problem too send when owner is good and know who is who. I hope my male help with good blood in USA.
I hope one- USA breeder have brain and see who he make with breeding- hope Marcy help with this. My not very like situation when we can have in future "USA wolfdog" - new breed with USA dogs breeding typs (who we can see in others breeds) - longhairig, or with bad angulation or with bad collor. If owner interesing in litters who want buy, not listen only bla bla bla - be ok.

I hope...

Cool! Which dog? Which state? I try to maintain a list of dogs in the US - it was really nice when Elf's program "revealed" all of the dogs that lived here (for now, anyways, it's possible to know how many dogs we have here - but not who or where - from the WD database). I hope also, that our breeding program puts out dogs that fit the European standard - I know it's something I look for in my own program...somehow I think we will need to figure out an efficient, reasonable way to use European rated studs though...not only the dogs that are imported permanently here. I spoke recently with a vet clinic who specializes in AI in the US - they said the costs for import/use of frozen AI are approximately $3,000, they usually have pretty good results with other breeds - but still a huge (expensive) risk.

wolfin · 27-07-2010, 14:40

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Originally Posted by GalomyOak

Cool! Which dog? Which state?. I spoke recently with a vet clinic who specializes in AI in the US - they said the costs for import/use of frozen AI are approximately $3,000, they usually have pretty good results with other breeds - but still a huge (expensive) risk.

eeee big price? this is all - payment for male, transport and operation with bitch? When I speak with ours veterinar he stay - send in Europa (sperma testing and sending ) are about 400-500 euro.

about puppy I send PW

I not want make reklama in forum

Pavel · 26-07-2010, 21:40

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Originally Posted by Nebulosa

The main problem is that this FAQ is not new, it shows the price of the pups mainly when you live in the same country that the breeder, but its not truth when you live outside.

For your info only. FAQ says, how much cost CsW in CZ and this information still valid.

pdmcgrane · 27-07-2010, 03:56

The total price (puppy, shipping, paperwork nonsense and bogus importation fees, crate, etc...) I paid was around 3000 US dollars. The Euro is a killer.... or was at the time I got my puppy earlier in the year so it really inflated prices. Hope that gives you an idea of what you might be paying- it's an expensive little venture.

24-07-2010, 22:34	#1
Nebulosa Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 1,334	The main problem is that this FAQ is not new, it shows the price of the pups mainly when you live in the same country that the breeder, but its not truth when you live outside. Clearly it's for warn people about the unconscious cheap litters comming from pressuposed CzW parents without pedigree and no health control. The prices of a CzW in the origins countries commonly float around 1000 euros to 1500 euros when it's for export, but depending on the country and of the breeder it can reach over 4000 euros. __________________

27-07-2010, 09:59	#6
wolfin Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Where the wolf lives Posts: 6,095	And I send in this year one very good male to USA. No problem too send when owner is good and know who is who. I hope my male help with good blood in USA. I hope one- USA breeder have brain and see who he make with breeding- hope Marcy help with this. My not very like situation when we can have in future "USA wolfdog" - new breed with USA dogs breeding typs (who we can see in others breeds) - longhairig, or with bad angulation or with bad collor. If owner interesing in litters who want buy, not listen only bla bla bla - be ok. I hope... __________________

27-07-2010, 09:37	#5
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Paula. If it is "for me", I had not problem to send puppy to Patrick. He is very good owner for my puppy. I don´t think, Zahara will be "lost" for breeding. Patrick is in contact with "guarant" of wolfdogs in US- Marcy (Galomy oak) and if Patrick will want, Zahara can be used for US breeding. I hope, Marcy will create US club for our breed and breeding will be "under control". I am happy about so good owner as Patrick is, he works with her and he help to do "good name" of our breed there. I think, blood of my Wickey and Czambor is not "uniquate" here in Czech. We can have more pups with this blood here in Czech. And I can (and I will) repeat this combination.

27-07-2010, 03:56	#10
pdmcgrane Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 12	The total price (puppy, shipping, paperwork nonsense and bogus importation fees, crate, etc...) I paid was around 3000 US dollars. The Euro is a killer.... or was at the time I got my puppy earlier in the year so it really inflated prices. Hope that gives you an idea of what you might be paying- it's an expensive little venture.