Can of Worms: Update on Mutara dogs?

Gypsy Wolf · 14-06-2010, 18:43

But what about a falsified pedigree? That would go through in Sweden, correct?
Also, what about when these mutara lines ARE F5, down the line? I don't want even the slightest bit of mutara blood...

Mikael · 14-06-2010, 19:16

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Originally Posted by Lunas Mom

But what about a falsified pedigree? That would go through in Sweden, correct?
Also, what about when these mutara lines ARE F5, down the line? I don't want even the slightest bit of mutara blood...

If it is reported to the Swedish kennel club, they will probably lose there pedigree.
( if there is any proof )

If there is no proof maybe they just ban every CsW and Saarloos in Sweden from breeding whit pure Pedigree’s as they did between 1997-2008 ! Even if Swedish government did say CsW and Saarloos was OK 1997 the Swedish Kennel Club refused to let any wolfdog on any show or let them breed whit pedigree, until 2008.

If they are F1-F4 the dog will probably bee put to sleep to

Therefor please do not import a dog of the "Mutara" lines to Sweden !!!
As it might get the breed banned

And the dog killed

!!!

In Sweden we do not have any room for any error, one bad thing and we might be banned.

Best regards / Mikael

AMERICANI · 14-06-2010, 23:20

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Hanka · 15-06-2010, 06:17

Christian, you wrote "people around Mutaras was open".
No, they was not open. Everything was "top secret" and common members of club knew NOTHING. Only a few people (5?) did it.....

valentina · 15-06-2010, 08:12

I'm agree with sciamalaia

how many dogs (that the owner write here in wolfdog from many countries) are certainly mutara? how we can to have a confirmation?

what we can to do (really) for the preservation of the breed?

Pavel · 15-06-2010, 09:07

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Originally Posted by valentina

I'm agree with sciamalaia

how many dogs (that the owner write here in wolfdog from many countries) are certainly mutara? how we can to have a confirmation?

what we can to do (really) for the preservation of the breed?

Original Mutaras :
http://www.wolfdog.org/dbase/d/5571
http://www.wolfdog.org/dbase/d/5535
http://www.wolfdog.org/dbase/d/5570

And all their offsprings.

The blood od Mutaras is today just in dogs from kennels :
Mutara
Passo del Lupo
Foresta Incantata

elf · 15-06-2010, 12:50

If it really become one day a big deal (what I doubt), you can likely have DNA test.
mtDNA are inherited from mother, so checking this against SNP or microsatellite specific to arctic wolf would I guess do the trick.

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Gypsy Wolf Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Florida & Minnesota U.S. Posts: 252	But what about a falsified pedigree? That would go through in Sweden, correct? Also, what about when these mutara lines ARE F5, down the line? I don't want even the slightest bit of mutara blood...

15-06-2010, 06:17	#4
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Christian, you wrote "people around Mutaras was open". No, they was not open. Everything was "top secret" and common members of club knew NOTHING. Only a few people (5?) did it.....