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Old 10-06-2010, 14:07   #1
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@ Hanka,
1/How do you see the genopool in Belgium? Which groups are already in Belgium?
2/What is the most important in breeding CSV? Bloodline, bonitation, workingtitles,HD,... . Also for me the show results are the less important.
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Old 10-06-2010, 15:32   #2
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1/How do you see the genopool in Belgium? Which groups are already in Belgium?
What you can do is to find all dogs living in Belgium with: http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...ountry=Belgien

Then on the left you have all dogs, let's click on the first one (it's ID is automatically filled): http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...rm.py?id=11570

Then click on "CZ breedings groups": http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...y?dog_id=11570

To have a picture of the whole country you need to do it for all dogs in Belgium, I don't add the option to do this on the server because the load (calculation) would be too high (if many do this the same time), but you still can have a picture doing it by hand for each dog in Belgium. I can do it on my local computer, run it and wait 15min for the result for exemple, but to give this option available for everyone is more challenging... or we would need a big server.

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2/What is the most important in breeding CSV? Bloodline, bonitation, workingtitles,HD
What breeding programs usually do is to create a breeding value for each dogs according to criterions you choose. Let say for exemple you have/want 4 criterions:

- A: HD
- B: bloodline
- C: bonitation
- D: working title

Then you need to add some ponderation to say which criterions are more important (at the moment for the breed, or in your specific contry etc) than other. Let's say a for HD, b for bloodline, c for bonitation, d for working title, then the dog breeding value is:

dogBV = aA + bB + cC + dD

With this number for each dog you can set up some large scale breeding plan.

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Old 10-06-2010, 19:17   #3
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Is there also an option to find a matching partner for you dog which has different breedings groups?
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Old 11-06-2010, 06:22   #4
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Hi Patrick,
I will contact you next week, OK?
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Old 14-06-2010, 19:11   #5
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Hi friends, sorry about my late, I was a little busy .
So for Ste:
Tristan della Lacha VIII group

for Buideiwolf:
Delan van Hiemrod II group
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Hi Patrick,
please sorry about my late. You know, if you will need something, I am always ready to help you.
Alfi gr. II
Altraz gr. II
Ariph gr.IV (but this his pedigree is mixture )
Fenrir gr. II
Foalan gr. II
Heron gr. I
Snow gr. VI
if you want to look at other males in groups and see where are "your" belgian males, you can see it here:
http://wolfdog.wbs.cz/Situation-in-c...eding-now.html
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Old 15-06-2010, 12:36   #7
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SK is building/updating their breeding groups, I think that CZ and SK should work together on this and share groups, is it the case ? I don't know SK groups, but at least CZ groups would benefit an update.

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Old 15-06-2010, 18:01   #8
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Hi friends, sorry about my late, I was a little busy .
So for Ste:
Tristan della Lacha VIII group
Sorry, I don't understand..you consider the most imortant dog or you make a sum between the dogs of each group? for Tristan:
Looking at father line :
Gr V: Bak 6.25,Barry 1.5625 = 7.8125 ?
Gr VII : Ariska 6.25, Cita 9.375 = 15.625 ?
Gr VIII: Ajax 6.25

Father+mother:
The higher are Bak and CIta, both with 9.375 ; the sum of the groups :
V : 12.5
VII : 17.1875
VIII: 12.5

Why the group should be the VIII?
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