Can of Worms: Update on Mutara dogs?

[Mikael]

Maybe this Google translation can help you ???

>>> http://translate.google.com/translat...&sl=auto&tl=en

Very best regards / Mikael

[Mikael]

Wolfdog.org Admin did write this in the past...

COPY from Wolfdog.org

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"We do not advertise here kennels:

- which mix and register Saarloos-Czechoslovakian Wolfdog mixes

- which use lines where appear the offsprings of the mix
Dark (priv. Locchi) who was registered by ENCI with the false parents names. And it doesn't matter in ANY GENERATION the dog will appear

- which own and use for breeding the nonbreeds know as Mutaras (Ave Lupo ---Mutara--, Audrey Lupo ---Mutara--- and Ares Lupo ---Mutara---)

- which own and/or use for breeding any nonbreeds and their offsprings comming from the S- Passo del Lupo litter: Selly Passo del Lupo, Sakim Passo del Lupo, Sam Passo del Lupo, Sangria Passo del Lupo, Sanika Passo del Lupo and Seiko Passo del Lupo.


REASON: There is no advertising and soon the future puppy buyers will be warned not to buy any puppies from this lines and kennels because the litter S-Passo del Lupo, Dark and Mutaras were officialy BANNED by the Slovak Club and recognized as NON-BREEDS!!!!
Because it is not possible to count with the national kennel clubs and for example ENCI seems nothing wrong in registering mutts as purebreed dogs it was needed to make additional steps and protect the CzW genepool.

So NONE of these dogs and NONE of their offsprings will EVER be registered by the breed club in Slovakia (and also Czech breed club) and it will be not ALLOWED to import or breed ANY offsprings of these dogs EVEN if the nonbredd will be in 20-, 30 or 100- generation…"

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Best regards / Mikael

[Mikael]

I asked the Slovak Czechoslovakian Wolfdog club about the copy obowe and where they stand officially in this matter in 2009 and got this answer…

"The dogs you mentioned are banned officially, but not mentioned by name -
the official ban says that dogs, whose paretnage is not known precisely up
to the year 1989 (when the breed was officially recognized) is not
considered CSV and therefore cannot be used in breeding."
/ Slovak Czechoslovakian Wolfdog club.


I also show the copy above and asked the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog Check breeders club of there opinion and got this answer…

"Dogs with unclear origin are not used for breeding in the Czech Republic of course. We are closely connected with Slovak breeders club and we cooperate. We are ready to cooperate with other breeders clubs..."
/ Check breeders club

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Best regards / Mikael

[Gypsy Wolf]

So it's 7-8 years later - what happened to the dogs? Did they reproduce? Are any of the offspring registered legally or illegally?
Is there a chance of these mutara dogs getting into our bloodlines?

[Mikael]

I´m no Mutara expert but I can try to answer as good as I can

So it's 7-8 years later - what happened to the dogs?

You can find them in the database.
Lupina did pass away in 2008.

Did they reproduce?

Yes

Are any of the offspring registered legally or illegally?

Yes

Is there a chance of these mutara dogs getting into our bloodlines?

Yes, but as (we) know ho they are I think the Mutara lines will not live on...

Best regards / Mikael

[Gypsy Wolf]

So, in effect, these bloodlines will not be a threat to our breed? My concern is, as I am a novice, that I might have USED or BOUGHT a Mutara without knowing any better as it isn't something that is OBVIOUS. How would someone be able to prevent such a mistake?

[Rona]

Napisał Lunas Mom

So, in effect, these bloodlines will not be a threat to our breed? My concern is, as I am a novice, that I might have USED or BOUGHT a Mutara without knowing any better as it isn't something that is OBVIOUS. How would someone be able to prevent such a mistake?

By careful study of the potential rep's pedigree and of the pup one intends to buy. Takes time and no shortcuts available, I'm afraid. Besides, when buying a pup, it is recommended to select an ethical breeder interested in the breed development and not just a "pup producer" . In fact recognizing "who is who" in CSV breeding takes even more time ...